[Fenix]

(05-30-2012 12:08 AM)soup Wrote:  

(05-29-2012 06:47 PM)MSW2007 Wrote:  

I cringed reading some of those messages.

The competition on okcupid presents two problems:

1.) Beta males inflating the egos of chicks that are often 6's at best.

2.) 4's, 5's and 6's being hounded by so many losers that your message could easily get lost in the shuffle.

I haven't logged on in a while.

It's interesting because I wonder how much of our game is necessary due to the fuck-ups of other men. I'd be curious to know how things would be if all men played by our rules.

^^this. We men only have ourselves - or rather, other men - to blame. We are each other's competition. Women are products of their environment & experiences. When betas do beta things and alphas do alpha things to them over 1000s of years, they have learned and adapted. If other men did not buy women flowers, it would not become a standard expectation. If other men did not 'pump & dump' while lying to women, they would not have become so guarded. Modern man has suffered from the consequences of the actions of our past brethren. And it doesn't have to take a millenium or even a century. Places like Medellin have been ruined by guys who have been there 5-10 years before you.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

Fenix, I think you're misrepresenting what soup wrote about whether the game might be less or more effective if there were not so many hopeless betas around. This has nothing to do with the argument that players have somehow "corrupted" women.

First of all, it is women who choose whom to sleep with. As soon as they got complete freedom in this regard, it turned out that this were the alphas and cads, for whom pump 'n' dump is default behaviour. While a tiny number may have always been players, the majority of the players were created by women, not the opposite. A typical woman always has a choice between an alpha and several nice guys pursuing her. On the other hand, it is a very, very small minority of men who have the choice of more than one woman interested in them at a time.

Places like Medellin (and Poland/Ukraine after the Euro Championship) are not ruined by players, they're ruined by both sausage fests (something that Roosh wrote about) due to many desperate men coming over, and the female hypergamy being fully liberated there (by state & economic development). You will note that part of the appeal of Medellin and other popular places is that players don't have to be too alpha there, they can just *gasp* be themselves because women there appreciate it when a guy is confident but not a jerk. By contrast, in the USA, that kind of behaviour would leave you massacred and cheated on every time. It is because the girls there like - no, they ADORE - players, alphas and those who pump 'n' dump them.

Anyways, I feel like this post contains a lot of unhealthy apologism. I refuse to be held responsible for the fact that Western women have grown mad (i.e. regressed to their primal sexuality due to lack of consequences) and now get wet only for players.

[Chapped3rdEye]

I feel much better about the dumb shit I say to broads online now.

[BortimusPrime]

Encouraging the guys to admit to their wow habit is just cruel.

What's sad is that there isn't a single teasing message on there, they're all "Hi my name is bob", "ur sexy", or "Captain assburger's dissertation on why we're compatible"...

[Staros]

A little bit off topic, but I see that a lot of people think pictures are important in your profile. What kind of photographer should one go to to get great pics for dating sites like OKCupid?

[Gmac]

Quote:

FFX!!! That's one of my fav ffs...I'm learning to Zanzibar on my piano right now ..kinda random but easily the coolest song ever.

This article is pretty funny.

Quote:

20 Guys Trying to Bang a Total Psycho on OkCupid

http://slacktory.com/2012/05/20-guys-try...n-okcupid/

[gqntexas]

i did an experiment like this a while back except on POFatties.. I took 4 or 5 pics and the exact profile text of a 28 year old blonde girl (between a 7 or 8 looks) in another major city far away from mine. I posted it on a Sunday morning around noon. By the next day around noon (exactly 24 hours and before i deleted the fake profile), it had 127 emails to it.. The responses were pretty much exactly like the original posters article..

Let me just say this though, the so called "competition" sucks.. I had never seen other dudes profiles before this , but yes most have shitty idiotic pics (shirtless bathroom mirror, grainy web cam pics, holding a dead deer on a hunting trip, ect.).

We all know that women online (or just in general) are completely unrealistic in what they think deserve in a man, but some of these dudes were too.. Why the hell a 40 year old 5'4 chubby dorky asian guy would think he has any kind of chance with a cute 28 year old blonde is beyond me.

Ever seen that show "To catch a Predator" where dozens and dozens of dudes show up to meet what they think is a 13 year old girl? Those guys are almost always social outcasts/social rejects.. Well imagine being a cute female and logging in to find dozens of shitty messages from guys just like that.

So if you've ever wondered why online dating can be so fucking tough, that's why. I rarely even bother to send emails anymore. I just let them email me first. I have a completely sarcastic and hilarious alpha-type profile, with about 4 good pics on it (pic of me in the endzone of an NFL game, pic of me golfing, pic of me pulling a 4-wheeler out of my garage which highlights my house, truck, and friends Mercedes benz). I get a lot of responses and get laid quite regularly. I couldn't imagine as a guy an average boring beta type profile ("im a laid back guy, blah blah") and having average crappy pics. In all honesty, the 90+ % of dudes who do have those profiles actually probably do make my job easier.

[HoustonRookie]

My personal favorite

"
In the interest of science and my own edification, would you answer a poll question for me? That question being:

In all honesty, why did you not respond my first message to you? You didn't even say,"not interested" or... I have boy friend or... you're too old for me. But instead with simply... nothing at all.

Me, I just thought ye were really very attractive and that we have some things in common... might be worth getting to know one another. However.... you never got back to me. So now I'm taking a poll in order to get to the bottom of this phenomena. For Science, why did you not respond to my previous message to you?

Thanks for your reply : )

-Michael
"

Doesn't get a response, so he sends another one in the hopes that THIS one will get a reply.

[party1981]

Jesus Christ. My emails on OK Cupid are better than 95% of those.

I had no idea it was so bad.

[wolf]

In all honesty I don't have problems getting these chicks out. I can meet up at least 3 different chicks in a week, but they won't f*ck.

I've tried bringing them home, tried inviting them. I can get some of the clothes off but they don't want to f*ck. They would rather go shopping or they would get their fix(attention fix) in a bar.
Why do you think there are so many bars in Anglo countries, because these girls are not that serious in f*cking. There are chicks there if its not a sausagefest, but countries where people are actually f*cking don't have that many bars.

[TheBulldozer]

(09-16-2012 04:59 PM)wolf Wrote:  

In all honesty I don't have problems getting these chicks out. I can meet up at least 3 different chicks in a week, but they won't f*ck.

I've tried bringing them home, tried inviting them. I can get some of the clothes off but they don't want to f*ck. They would rather go shopping or they would get their fix(attention fix) in a bar.
Why do you think there are so many bars in Anglo countries, because these girls are not that serious in f*cking. There are chicks there if its not a sausagefest, but countries where people are actually f*cking don't have that many bars.

Wear a blazer on a date. Tighten the logistics. Make sure you're getting her drunk in a place very close to her house, or yours for that matter. Start dates later in the evening. Ignore her when you don't get what you want. Keep pushing!

[Wutang]

I did a similar thing once with putting up a fake online dating profile (in my case it was with Plentyoffish) but the difference is that I used the pictures of a girl that was completely average looking that I knew from college. Even then my fake profile was still receiving 4-5 messages a day on average and yeah it pretty much was like the messages that the OP received. It further reinforced for me the idea that even an average looking girl in the US that is still in her 20s or below is going to get a ton of male attention.

[Jackhammer]

(09-16-2012 03:10 PM)HoustonRookie Wrote:  

My personal favorite

"
In the interest of science and my own edification, would you answer a poll question for me? That question being:

In all honesty, why did you not respond my first message to you? You didn't even say,"not interested" or... I have boy friend or... you're too old for me. But instead with simply... nothing at all.

Me, I just thought ye were really very attractive and that we have some things in common... might be worth getting to know one another. However.... you never got back to me. So now I'm taking a poll in order to get to the bottom of this phenomena. For Science, why did you not respond to my previous message to you?

Thanks for your reply : )

-Michael
"

Doesn't get a response, so he sends another one in the hopes that THIS one will get a reply.

Quality avatar...

I just signed up for OkCupid and this is good news for me, since my messages are NEVER like this. I basically approach each encounter as if I'm trolling them and basically see what I can get away with, keeping it just normal enough to still possibly get some bangs out of it. If this is how the average dude messages, I am going to clean up.