In the event of a civil war , or, full scale attack (not nuclear) from a foreign country, what would be some of the things you would do to ensure your survival?
Survival measures in event of war.
Lots of supplies, water, alcohol and a basement.
Walk right across the street and steal a sailboat and tow my hot-rod flats skiff behind it. Become a full on Pirate. I can access natural springs right from the water and eat fish. I would assault land strongholds via water and steal all their booze food and kidnap the hottest girls. Pretty much live the way I did before I had a kid.
Silver, some sort of long gun for hunting small game and self defense, a hand gun, water filters, freeze dried food, and a rural location to live. Cities will be diseased infested violent Hell holes.
"Feminism is a trade union for ugly women"- Peregrine
You need food, water, and something to barter with that has value. Silver is cool but if everybody still has money and just nothing to buy you silver holds little value compares to ammunition or planting seeds for food even.
It's wise to escape the City. But of course alot of people would be doing this also so you would have to be prepared to muscle it out in the lawless city. Interesting fact is that 90% of North American Cities are poorly designed for this type of shit. They have little history of war or attack. Most European Cities are built with war and army in mind and you can stake out the nooks and crannies of those Cities a lot better. Lanes of the interstate would be shutdown for the troops. Gas would sell out in a day or two and most cities only have a 10 day supply of food in wherehouses with no way to get them to the stores.
You would have to have a plan to get out first or stay in the city prepared and fend off shit to flee when things die down (literally) after 10 days. That's the magic number they say until (complacent) humans start going nuts with 14 days resorting to canabalism.
Contrast being in LA versus Boston in this type of situation. Knowing your surroundings is key. Running your motarbike down a old utility route might mean the difference between escaping and death by throngs of crazy nuts looking for food.
My homie can be out of the City on a 2hrs notice. He has a bag at work and a kit at home. He tells me he could live comfortably for 4 weeks with the rest of the time just living off the land. Its taking him 2 years to get to that point tho with test runs camping in the fall.
It's wise to escape the City. But of course alot of people would be doing this also so you would have to be prepared to muscle it out in the lawless city. Interesting fact is that 90% of North American Cities are poorly designed for this type of shit. They have little history of war or attack. Most European Cities are built with war and army in mind and you can stake out the nooks and crannies of those Cities a lot better. Lanes of the interstate would be shutdown for the troops. Gas would sell out in a day or two and most cities only have a 10 day supply of food in wherehouses with no way to get them to the stores.
You would have to have a plan to get out first or stay in the city prepared and fend off shit to flee when things die down (literally) after 10 days. That's the magic number they say until (complacent) humans start going nuts with 14 days resorting to canabalism.
Contrast being in LA versus Boston in this type of situation. Knowing your surroundings is key. Running your motarbike down a old utility route might mean the difference between escaping and death by throngs of crazy nuts looking for food.
My homie can be out of the City on a 2hrs notice. He has a bag at work and a kit at home. He tells me he could live comfortably for 4 weeks with the rest of the time just living off the land. Its taking him 2 years to get to that point tho with test runs camping in the fall.
You need to have all these skills now.
You aren't going to learn them when shit hits the fan. It doesn't matter if you have rehearsed it in your head.
I never realised how difficult it all was until someone said to me;
"As of the end of this sentence, you have sixty seconds to get out of your home. Do it."
You guys could try the same thing. Now.
Everything should come from your minute plan. From that, you can do a five minute plan, an hour plan, and then a week plan. Again: Unless you've practiced it, assume you can't do it.
I know a lot of people that buy loads of gear and think they're going to be living off the land, but probably couldn't get out of their house in time if it caught fire. If you had to get out of your house in the next minute, what would you do? What would you grab? Is it all in a bag ready to go?
Same thing - if you had to lock yourself in your house RIGHT NOW, could you barricade the doors with stuff you already have? How many weeks food do you have stored with you? What about water? Assume the taps and the power are going to go off suddenly.
So on and so forth.
You aren't going to learn them when shit hits the fan. It doesn't matter if you have rehearsed it in your head.
I never realised how difficult it all was until someone said to me;
"As of the end of this sentence, you have sixty seconds to get out of your home. Do it."
You guys could try the same thing. Now.
Everything should come from your minute plan. From that, you can do a five minute plan, an hour plan, and then a week plan. Again: Unless you've practiced it, assume you can't do it.
I know a lot of people that buy loads of gear and think they're going to be living off the land, but probably couldn't get out of their house in time if it caught fire. If you had to get out of your house in the next minute, what would you do? What would you grab? Is it all in a bag ready to go?
Same thing - if you had to lock yourself in your house RIGHT NOW, could you barricade the doors with stuff you already have? How many weeks food do you have stored with you? What about water? Assume the taps and the power are going to go off suddenly.
So on and so forth.
Quote: (05-08-2012 08:01 PM)Kitsune Wrote:Why would you want to be locked in the house when you can be out raping and pillaging? I'm going to be a Pirate but I'm still going to join the festivities on land.
You need to have all these skills now.
You aren't going to learn them when shit hits the fan. It doesn't matter if you have rehearsed it in your head.
I never realised how difficult it all was until someone said to me;
"As of the end of this sentence, you have sixty seconds to get out of your home. Do it."
You guys could try the same thing. Now.
Everything should come from your minute plan. From that, you can do a five minute plan, an hour plan, and then a week plan. Again: Unless you've practiced it, assume you can't do it.
I know a lot of people that buy loads of gear and think they're going to be living off the land, but probably couldn't get out of their house in time if it caught fire. If you had to get out of your house in the next minute, what would you do? What would you grab? Is it all in a bag ready to go?
Same thing - if you had to lock yourself in your house RIGHT NOW, could you barricade the doors with stuff you already have? How many weeks food do you have stored with you? What about water? Assume the taps and the power are going to go off suddenly.
So on and so forth.
Forget about non-nuclear foreign invasion. Ain't gonna happen. Too many guns in America. As a Japanese general was quoted prior to WW2 when advising not to attack America, "there is a rifle behind every blade of grass". What could happen is societal breakdown and revolution.
I'm grabbing my guns, mags, ammo, some clothes, laptop (can't abandon my porn stash in a time when attractive women may not be readily available!), and bouncing to some folks I know in dem dere hills. Might take a cute girl with me to drive the car while I man the rifle.
People who aren't armed when SHTF are going to get fucked. Hard. Unfortunately this includes most of my anti-gun family and friends from the northeast. Can't say I didn't warn them.
emech, you can rape and pillage, but you better have a crew. Lone wolves are easy targets when rule of law is abandoned.
I'm grabbing my guns, mags, ammo, some clothes, laptop (can't abandon my porn stash in a time when attractive women may not be readily available!), and bouncing to some folks I know in dem dere hills. Might take a cute girl with me to drive the car while I man the rifle.
People who aren't armed when SHTF are going to get fucked. Hard. Unfortunately this includes most of my anti-gun family and friends from the northeast. Can't say I didn't warn them.
emech, you can rape and pillage, but you better have a crew. Lone wolves are easy targets when rule of law is abandoned.
Quote: (05-08-2012 06:58 PM)el mechanico Wrote:
Walk right across the street and steal a sailboat and tow my hot-rod flats skiff behind it. Become a full on Pirate. I can access natural springs right from the water and eat fish. I would assault land strongholds via water and steal all their booze food and kidnap the hottest girls. Pretty much live the way I did before I had a kid.
And here I was thinking you would snag a speed boat , or yacht (since you're on the water), come pick me up and head south to D.R. or Costa Rica 'till the shit blows over. What would possess you to want to stay ?I need to rethink this friendship ,Sir!
I am all for emergency preparedness. You never know when you may have to shelter in place for a few days or get out your house in a hurry with whatever you can carry or throw in your car. The idea that civilization as we know it is teetering on the brink, however, where does that come from? People living today in the developed world have the safest and cushiest existence in the history of the world. I'm not sure why people think we're living in the end of days.
Some random shit could always happen, earthquakes, hurricanes, riots, tsunamis, whatever, but those are temporary occurrences. The key is to survive the event and the immediate aftermath; eventually things go back to normal. Look at the history of the 20th century Europe. There were two world wars, a flu pandemic, depressions, hyperinflation, a few genocides, the Cold War, etc. A lot of people got fucked up in all that, but it wasn't the end of civilization. Most of the cities that were there in 1912 are still there in 2012.
Also, if the black swan comes and the shit does hit the fan, your fate is going to be largely determined by where you happen to be in relation to what's happening. All that said, a general level of physical fitness, familiarity and access to firearms, and some basic survival skills can't hurt, but that's shit you should be doing anyway.
ps - I would kind of like to be a pirate with e mech. No homo.
Some random shit could always happen, earthquakes, hurricanes, riots, tsunamis, whatever, but those are temporary occurrences. The key is to survive the event and the immediate aftermath; eventually things go back to normal. Look at the history of the 20th century Europe. There were two world wars, a flu pandemic, depressions, hyperinflation, a few genocides, the Cold War, etc. A lot of people got fucked up in all that, but it wasn't the end of civilization. Most of the cities that were there in 1912 are still there in 2012.
Also, if the black swan comes and the shit does hit the fan, your fate is going to be largely determined by where you happen to be in relation to what's happening. All that said, a general level of physical fitness, familiarity and access to firearms, and some basic survival skills can't hurt, but that's shit you should be doing anyway.
ps - I would kind of like to be a pirate with e mech. No homo.
Quote: (05-08-2012 09:41 PM)j r Wrote:What % of guys on this board do you think have firearms? I'm guessing less than 20%. A rifle and at least a case of ammo for it? Guessing less than 5%.
All that said, a general level of physical fitness, familiarity and access to firearms, and some basic survival skills can't hurt, but that's shit you should be doing anyway.
Players will be in just as much trouble as government dependent females. Maybe even more so because young females have something of value to trade.
Ain't nobody gonna be sippin martinis poolside when our femcentric civilization falls apart.
watch this show to get an idea of how to really be prepared: http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/ch...-preppers/
Also read the U.S Army Field Survival Guide (you can download it for free from an app market)
This site also has food info: http://offgridsurvival.com/
Also read the U.S Army Field Survival Guide (you can download it for free from an app market)
This site also has food info: http://offgridsurvival.com/
Quote: (05-08-2012 09:50 PM)assman Wrote:
Quote: (05-08-2012 09:41 PM)j r Wrote:What % of guys on this board do you think have firearms? I'm guessing less than 20%. A rifle and at least a case of ammo for it? Guessing less than 5%.
All that said, a general level of physical fitness, familiarity and access to firearms, and some basic survival skills can't hurt, but that's shit you should be doing anyway.
Players will be in just as much trouble as government dependent females. Maybe even more so because young females have something of value to trade.
Ain't nobody gonna be sippin martinis poolside when our femcentric civilization falls apart.
That's pretty much my point. Given everything we know about the history of the world, there is no reason to think that our society is just going to start crumbling around us. If Europe made it through the 20th century, I'm pretty sure that America will make it through the 21st. Look at Japan. They're about as neutered as you can get and still one of the world's strongest economies.
Even the parts of our country that are the worst, the inner cities, are much better than they were 30 years ago. You got mad gay-looking hipsters freely roaming around parts of Brooklyn where 20 years ago they most likely would have gotten robbed and stomped on. In Oakland, that skank Kreyshawn and her "white girl mob" are running around dropping N-bombs with impunity and pretending to rap. Could such a thing have happened in 1980s Oakland? If that's not a sign that violence and crime have declined, then I don't know what is.
This island is 5 min from my house. I'll take it over ten minutes after the shit hits the fan
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Nobody lives there and there's a cove on the NE part. You can only get a boat in there at high tide. There's springs all over the place so water is no problem. Also a quick dive will give you any kind of seafood you want in two seconds. We hang out there all the time and just grab scallops etc and eat them over a fire. There's a porta potty on it as well and a hurricane shelter.
Pusscrook, If we fuck up what do you think will happen to the DR? It would be a warzone.
You're safe on the water as long as you're fast and have skills. I would stay because I like to fight. When I can't siphon anymore fuel for the skiff I'll sail off and Pirate on the high seas.
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Nobody lives there and there's a cove on the NE part. You can only get a boat in there at high tide. There's springs all over the place so water is no problem. Also a quick dive will give you any kind of seafood you want in two seconds. We hang out there all the time and just grab scallops etc and eat them over a fire. There's a porta potty on it as well and a hurricane shelter.
Pusscrook, If we fuck up what do you think will happen to the DR? It would be a warzone.
You're safe on the water as long as you're fast and have skills. I would stay because I like to fight. When I can't siphon anymore fuel for the skiff I'll sail off and Pirate on the high seas.
Quote: (05-08-2012 10:25 PM)j r Wrote:Trends don't last forever, and there are lots of reasons to expect our feminized society to collapse. If/when that happens, it won't be the end of the world, as a new society will rise up from the chaos and ashes, but not everyone is gonna survive to see that.
That's pretty much my point. Given everything we know about the history of the world, there is no reason to think that our society is just going to start crumbling around us. If Europe made it through the 20th century, I'm pretty sure that America will make it through the 21st. Look at Japan. They're about as neutered as you can get and still one of the world's strongest economies.
Even the parts of our country that are the worst, the inner cities, are much better than they were 30 years ago. You got mad gay-looking hipsters freely roaming around parts of Brooklyn where 20 years ago they most likely would have gotten robbed and stomped on. In Oakland, that skank Kreyshawn and her "white girl mob" are running around dropping N-bombs with impunity and pretending to rap. Could such a thing have happened in 1980s Oakland? If that's not a sign that violence and crime have declined, then I don't know what is.
Quote: (05-08-2012 10:38 PM)assman Wrote:
Quote: (05-08-2012 10:25 PM)j r Wrote:Trends don't last forever, and there are lots of reasons to expect our feminized society to collapse. If/when that happens, it won't be the end of the world, as a new society will rise up from the chaos and ashes, but not everyone is gonna survive to see that.
That's pretty much my point. Given everything we know about the history of the world, there is no reason to think that our society is just going to start crumbling around us. If Europe made it through the 20th century, I'm pretty sure that America will make it through the 21st. Look at Japan. They're about as neutered as you can get and still one of the world's strongest economies.
Even the parts of our country that are the worst, the inner cities, are much better than they were 30 years ago. You got mad gay-looking hipsters freely roaming around parts of Brooklyn where 20 years ago they most likely would have gotten robbed and stomped on. In Oakland, that skank Kreyshawn and her "white girl mob" are running around dropping N-bombs with impunity and pretending to rap. Could such a thing have happened in 1980s Oakland? If that's not a sign that violence and crime have declined, then I don't know what is.
What are those reasons? I've just pointed to ways in which things are getting better as opposed to worst. I gave examples of disasters and events that killed people and caused significant damage, but where short-lived. I also gave examples of major historical events that destroyed whole cities and killed millions of people. And none of those things led to the end of civilization or even a major reversal in technological and economic advancement.
Societies just don't fall apart overnight. We talk about the fall of the Roman Empire, but it's not like some Roman nobles where chilling having an orgy one night, then Barbarians showed up and raped all the women, and the next morning they woke up in the Dark Ages. That shit happened over the course of many many years. If our civilization were to collapse, it would happen at a rate that would be barely be discernible to anyone living through it.
when SHTF, I am staying and fighting. My family will be okay as they live out in the country but I am taking all my guns and ammo, recruit some allies, and carve out my own little empire somewhere. I would drink by night and storm walmarts by day, burning and pillaging strip malls and fast food joints everywhere.
Anyone follow this site? http://theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com/
A bit overhyped but it is surprising how much weird environmental stuff is going on but unreported, plus the economic and political turmoil - Arab spring, Iran, protests, euro zone crisis.....
A bit overhyped but it is surprising how much weird environmental stuff is going on but unreported, plus the economic and political turmoil - Arab spring, Iran, protests, euro zone crisis.....
I got this book the other day - it is pretty fantastic. The book is $15 after tax, 105 pages, and covers survival in literally most any scenario you could think of. It is all practical, easy-to-read advice that puts things in a clear and simple order. I didn't know we had other survival guys on this board!
Anyway, if you haven't, you should try buying that survival guide.
Anyway, if you haven't, you should try buying that survival guide.
I've seen every episode of Surivorman. I should be ok.
Realistically though, I would steal a dog from a pet store, loot a grocery store, and drive down to my family friend's house out in the country. He has a ton of guns and is the outdoors type.
Realistically though, I would steal a dog from a pet store, loot a grocery store, and drive down to my family friend's house out in the country. He has a ton of guns and is the outdoors type.
Shave my head, loot a lot of canned food. Stock up weapons. Guns aren't that accessible here but I do have a butterfly knife and I'm getting a baseball bat when I move into my new house.
21 y/o brit.
I think the chances are slim that a full scale foreign attack would reach U.S. soil, however, I do think that civil war, is a possibility if things progress in a certain direction.
Most of us have read/heard about "helter skelter", and though the author of such thoughts may be insane(as in psychotic), I can see a range of issues that may allow this event to manifest itself.
My question is ..... If the POTUS gets assassinated by someone other than that of his race (for the purpose of this discussion, a white person) and a race war of epic proportion breaks out because of it, would you be able to remain neutral, fight based upon the race you represent, or, get the hell out until the shit blows over?
Most of us have read/heard about "helter skelter", and though the author of such thoughts may be insane(as in psychotic), I can see a range of issues that may allow this event to manifest itself.
My question is ..... If the POTUS gets assassinated by someone other than that of his race (for the purpose of this discussion, a white person) and a race war of epic proportion breaks out because of it, would you be able to remain neutral, fight based upon the race you represent, or, get the hell out until the shit blows over?
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