[Sourcecode]

If you truly want to understand Balkan power..
Take some time is out of your day and watch this documentary

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While most of us were still hung up on grunge, the republics of the former Yugoslavia spent the early 90s hung up on seceding into their own countries and mass-murdering people over infinitesimal ethnic differences. And the mid 90s. And the late 90s. To commemorate 12 years without a major attempted genocide, we decided to rent a Yugo and take a road trip through the Balkans to see what's going on and try to wrap our thinkers around what was up with all that ethnic cleansin'.

The VICE Guide to the Balkans

Now we can better understand the mindsets of some of the members of this board.
here we learn about
Turbofolk

club brawling
tall big titted serbian girls


All jokes aside...Interesting watch

[Roosh]

Actually I was wondering about this the other day... maybe Kamaki can chime in...

What's the difference between the optimal game on Balkan girls and the optimal for Ukrainian?

[Sourcecode]

Part 2 is the party part of the Doc.

Are chicks really like this in Belgrade..
The main singer girl and her friends seemed very forward about everything.
was that the drugs and stardom or is that how Balkan princesses are.

Ive only known a handful of Bosnians in my life..but their styles just don't match mine..even if they were sexy.

Also..Do Balkan girls look older on average?
All the ones ive known could look 3-5 years older than they really were..party hard,age fast?



After watching..I actually think i understand kamaki a little more..the balkan power attitude and whatnot

[Greek kamaki]

Yes,it is mostly a feeling.I feel like the ground shakes here difficult to explain.Anyway the Serbs are crazy but they are like us.They are like Greeks without the inhibitions.It is the same mentality.When I see Serbs I get delighted.There are so many common bonds we never had any war against them during the last 1400 years when they first appeared by mix of White Slavs with indigenous Balkan people.
The Serb is the opposite of the Albanian and the opposite of the muslim.Also the opposite of the Croat.How to explain?They incorporate the Byzantine values like anti-muslim,anti-catholic.They are dangerous.We keep in headlines in the last 15 years if you notice.
Generally Balkan means living dangerously,living fast,sorting things yourself,taking care of things,control and unlimited rage.We are all angry here it is natural state.You see the American in the video how scared he was.In Balkans it is forbidden to look scared if you look like that the others smell it and they will bite you to pieces.

As for Balkan women they are top especially in body.Serbian,Croat women are absolutely top.Bulgarian and Romanian dress very sexy and have tall slender bodies and big butts.(mediteranean).Greek women can look like Serb,Bulgarian,Albanian or Turk.In cities in northern Greece the mix is such that you cannot really recognize who is who.Generally I think women here are more tough and they make us more tough.Some of this is shown in the video in the second part.They inspire us to do things not to be pussies.We communicate very good with Serbs.I mean I get rapport from first second when talking to Serbian women because we have the same mind frame.They are proud,hot dressed(Balkan kurwa style they show everything but in a kurwa mode a bit vulgar in relation to West) and like macho dominant men.(like Serbian men silent power).They also accept Greeks in some degree.They are not so free minded as polish or ukrainian or Russian women because they have inhibitions and care about their reputation(the turkish conservative influence from ottoman times).
I think the beast is there our neighbourhood is great.I always feel revived when I visit our Balkan neighbours they are like us in disguise.

[Greek kamaki]

These songs transmit a bit of Balkan atmosphere.

For Romanian body type see this video after 2:15.

[Greek kamaki]

(04-12-2012 12:55 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Actually I was wondering about this the other day... maybe Kamaki can chime in...

What's the difference between the optimal game on Balkan girls and the optimal for Ukrainian?

It is quite different.In Balkans you have to appear very serious formal prestige.Also discreet.In Ukraine you just need to show some good qualities although you can further also flash some prestige.The similarity is the corrupted culture mafia states and the orthodox mentality.The frame of mind is similar but Ukrainian women have also the soviet hardcore stuborness,bit of polish craziness,some primitiveness in manners due to lack of Roman occupation and some free spirits due to lack of Ottoman conservatism so they are different in a degree.

The main difference concerns easiness and availability the Ukrainian women have much less shame than Balkan ones and they do not operate so much in secrecy.I mean Ukrainian society is more accepting of certain behaviours than Balkan ones(there are always here guys to put girls in place).So in Balkans women are more stuck up they do not express themselves freely they are more sly and with agendas and the top of these features are displayed by Greek women who literarilly know every trick to put a man in their shoes.

In simple words the things that will land you a 6 here get you an 8 in Ukraine or you have to put more effort money and time here to get the same result if it is possible to get the same result.Also competrition from men is more fierce here(haircuts,wealth,physique,fashion all are way superior here among males than in Ukraine).

[Deb Auchery]

Had a friend from Serbia visit me tonight in Ukraine. We have been talking at length about the differences between Serbian girls and Ukrainian girls, we arrived at the following conclusions:

Serbian girls are hotter
Ukrainian girls are more feminine
Ukrainian girls are easier.
Serbian girls are more intelligent
Serbian girls are more hip
Ukrainian girls are more sane.

Overall the winner seems to be the Serbian girl, although Ukrainian girls being easier outweighs their negative aspects.

For example tonight I got hit on by the cloackroom attendant in a strip club. This would not happen in Serbia.

I will be back in Belgrade soon, my game plan as I have mentioned before is ignore,ignore,ignore,ignore. Do not inflate their gargantuan egos and they will get self conscious and want to fuck.

[Deb Auchery]

Fuck Turbo Folk though and avoid Turbo Folk girls, you will not get anywhere with these bitches. I spit on them

[Sourcecode]

(04-12-2012 04:12 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

These songs transmit a bit of Balkan atmosphere.

Im heading to sleep..so ill watch the rest of these video later.

But please..Kamaki or anyone..post a video of you dancing like the guy 1:05 and on.

Thats some straight not give a fuck and rave shit right there.

[Caligula]

I'm not making any statement here, but you also need to understand this part of recent Balkan history.

[Roosh]

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Ukrainian girls are easier.

Fuck, really? That's not encouraging at all.

[Subotai]

Hey Deb,

Can you go into the whole Turbo folk thing? The next place on my list is the Balkans and the data sheets here, while better than nothing, don't really seem to get to the core of what's going on there. Serbian guys tell me it's a fuckfest, and while I'm sure it is for them, for a Westerner, I'm sure it's extremely difficult like you're mentioning. It sounds like you have a better grasp than anyone else on the forum about what it's like over there. I'd love to hear your extended opinion and thoughts about it. (maybe after your next trip if that's better)

[calex]

(04-12-2012 07:45 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

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Ukrainian girls are easier.

Fuck, really? That's not encouraging at all.

You could do good in Belgrade. There's plenty of venues where well traveled bearded men with a thing for Kundera's writing can pull. Just don't try the Balkan power individual thing.

Now, I'm not going to comment on the vids posted here, or kamaki's ancestral nonsense since that can lead to an argument that has nothing to do with game. I will say that there are 2 very different sides to Serbia, ex-Yu, and Balkans in general. You already covered the first one. The second one looks more like this:

I'm posting this video because most of these girls are not professional models, just scene hipsters from around the way.

As for difficulty levels, i can't really compare, since i'm local here and exotic everywhere else. But judging from everything Deb Auchery wrote about Serbia, i would trust his judgment.

[Greek kamaki]

In general it is true Serbian girls are hotter(taller,trained,decent asses,Mediterranean hair and even Mediterranean features on face-imagine Monica Belluci being 185 cm tall she would be Serbian.On the other hand Ukrainian girls are a lot easier to the point they can be considered the easiest in Europe.Let's say one of the differences is that Serbian girls do not sell themselves they are proud.They maybe poor but behave proud.Serbia is a place of resistance full of mountains where bloody battles took place.For a Serb it is natural to resist and Serbian girls are no exception.No flat terrain like Poland Ukraine.
On the other hand Ukrainian women are much less proud and more practical,slavic genes speak when money comes in view.Ukrainian women have whored themselves many times in the past(for example during cholomodor-big hunger in the '30s it is said you could have the most gorgeous girls for half a bread.Such a situation never happened in Serbia).

[Greek kamaki]

(04-12-2012 06:48 PM)Caligula Wrote:  

I'm not making any statement here, but you also need to understand this part of recent Balkan history.

Imagine this guy was circulating around with a 1.2 kilo golden cross hanging from his neck in common view.Even in the most dangerous neighbourhoods and in towns full of muslims.You need steel balls to do that.

[The Duke]

I spent five months in Serbia several years ago. Hella hot girls. Serbian girls are a bit taller. Ukrainian are blonder. I dont know. I think girls in Kharkiv are as good visually as girls in Belgrade, for my taste. I prefer personalities of Ukrainian girls. Like Deb said, more feminine and sane. I love how Ukrainian girls say "Why not?" When I look back on my time in Ukraine, I think of it fondly. Maybe it was just bad luck, but in Serbia, I had some hard times.

(04-12-2012 01:21 PM)Sourcecode Wrote:  

Also..Do Balkan girls look older on average?
All the ones ive known could look 3-5 years older than they really were..party hard,age fast?

Yes, girls (and guys) age quickly in Serbia. Not sure why.

[Deb Auchery]

(04-12-2012 05:49 PM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  

Fuck Turbo Folk though and avoid Turbo Folk girls, you will not get anywhere with these bitches. I spit on them

Actually this is not 100% true, you can get results with turbo folkers, especially if you are splashing the cash.

I prefer the more cultured girls with better taste in music though

[Deb Auchery]

(04-13-2012 02:15 AM)The Duke Wrote:  

I spent five months in Serbia several years ago. Hella hot girls. Serbian girls are a bit taller. Ukrainian are blonder. I dont know. I think girls in Kharkiv are as good visually as girls in Belgrade, for my taste. I prefer personalities of Ukrainian girls. Like Deb said, more feminine and sane. I love how Ukrainian girls say "Why not?" When I look back on my time in Ukraine, I think of it fondly. Maybe it was just bad luck, but in Serbia, I had some hard times.

(04-12-2012 01:21 PM)Sourcecode Wrote:  

Also..Do Balkan girls look older on average?
All the ones ive known could look 3-5 years older than they really were..party hard,age fast?

Yes, girls (and guys) age quickly in Serbia. Not sure why.

I think the girls in Eastern and Southern Ukraine are closer to the Serbian look, taller dark, fitter. Though there are more blondes in Ukraine than Serbia, real blondes are still pretty rare.

I think Serbian girls don't age quite so well, but I think that is mostly the smokers, and a lot of girls smoke heavily in Serbia. You can find women that look great for the age due to not smoking, having a superior diet, fitness, looking after teeth etc.

In my opinion they age better than Ukrainian girls, Ukrainians exercise less, their diet is worse, they drink more, although they smoke less.

[Deb Auchery]

(04-12-2012 08:38 PM)Subotai Wrote:  

Hey Deb,

Can you go into the whole Turbo folk thing? The next place on my list is the Balkans and the data sheets here, while better than nothing, don't really seem to get to the core of what's going on there. Serbian guys tell me it's a fuckfest, and while I'm sure it is for them, for a Westerner, I'm sure it's extremely difficult like you're mentioning. It sounds like you have a better grasp than anyone else on the forum about what it's like over there. I'd love to hear your extended opinion and thoughts about it. (maybe after your next trip if that's better)

Sorry my Turbo Folk message was written under the influence. There are many turbo folk clubs in Belgrade that specialise in this kind of music, but a foreigner cannot just turn up and get results easily. The girls don't turn up to drink, dance and have a good time; for them it's more about being seen by the right people, often nobody is dancing at all(which is common in many Serbian nightclubs) and they are drinking herbal tea.

Mostly guys turn up with girls to TF clubs, so you if you go with a male friend, you will both stand out like a sore thumb

Kafanas are better, they are smallers places so have a warmer feel and you can have some fun.

I would say stay away from TF nightclubs, but give the Kafanas a go.

My friend tells me there's a 24hr bar opened on the outskirts of Belgrade, it's pretty much like someone's house, but he says it's a fuckfest. I will try to get the name and report back.

[BalkanCynic]

Do Bulgarian guys also have this "balkan power"? Thats what I want to know.

[Sourcecode]

In my curiosity a Croatian girl I know, now want to invite me out to a Balkan Club here in Hamburg.
I don't know whether or not I should go.



looks like a real hole in the wall place and im not trying to be the only black guys around and get stomped by dimitri and is crew for dancing with their girls

quick tips?

[el mechanico]

"looks like a real hole in the wall place and im not trying to be the only black guys around and get stomped by dimitri and is crew for dancing with their girls

quick tips? "
Don't worry about it. Just go it doesn't look like a club that gets violent.

[calex]

(04-13-2012 05:32 AM)Sourcecode Wrote:  

In my curiosity a Croatian girl I know, now want to invite me out to a Balkan Club here in Hamburg.
I don't know whether or not I should go.

looks like a real hole in the wall place and im not trying to be the only black guys around and get stomped by dimitri and is crew for dancing with their girls

quick tips?

I wouldn't. Older, gastarbeiter crowd, terrible music, plus you will stand out and not in a good way, since they would all be friends of friends.

[Ubietza]

(04-13-2012 04:35 AM)BalkanCynic Wrote:  

Do Bulgarian guys also have this "balkan power"? Thats what I want to know.

Of course we do: on par with the Serbs or even more Balkan Power.

[Deb Auchery]

One source of Serbian Balkan Power is the outdoor meat grills that can be found everywhere. Serbians are big due to the vast quantities of meat they consume



Cevapi.....Pljeskavica......Pileci File.......Karadjordjeva Snicla.

You cannot compete with a Serbian man who has just had a 10 piece Cevapi