[Perseus]

(04-13-2012 12:50 AM)ASA123 Wrote:  

I think all the posters have a valid point. From what I've seen and through my own experiences if you are a minority trying to date/bang a white girl you have to have more of your shit together than the average white guy trying for the same girl.

- better job
- better education
- more fit, good looking
- some sort of higher value/status

There is still some degree of stigma of interracial dating. OKcupid did a study on this and it showed that white girls overwhelmingly go only for white guys. That being said among educated chicks with good jobs social/educational compatibility plays more of an issue.

you mean THIS

I take it with a grain of salt....

[speakeasy]

I see a certain irony in these threads.

For example, an Indian guy will say, "I'm upset that I can't get dates with white girls." You say to him,"if you can't get white girls what's wrong with dating Indian girls?" He'll reply, "I don't like Indian girls, I want a white girl."

So if a white girl discriminates against your race in dating, it's wrong, but yet he's discriminating against women of his own race in dating or he wouldn't be so damned worried about white girls. You would think that white girls were single-handedly holding these guys back from having a sex life.

Is it just me or does anyone else see the irony? Nothing wrong with going for white girls if you want them, but don't bitch about rejections from them if you are rejecting other races as well(including your own). It's hypocrisy.

[kosko]

^ Bingo! It is hypocrisy. The right angle is to be open to all girls, all colors and just looking for advantages where possible. I love my black girls, I really do. Only issue I come across is that the numbers are just to low of ones I find bangin' but when I come across one I'll hunt her down with no hesitation.

Men should really just get to the point of just going for what your dick likes. IMO you can find hot qualities in all shades. Evreybody has preferences but just having one favorite seems wack. Even for the types of girls I find least attractive Ill still manage from time to time to run into a girl of that kind whom is bangin'.

We can't control what complex runs in a females mind in regards to her preferences on race. I find if you carry yourself confidently and are a legit cool kat you can't have a shot at any broad. If she is to hung up or stuck up to even talk.. Then really she's probably wack as hell and a snooze in the sack.

[Screwston]

Y'all need to check out my thread I posted. Tuth, Mixx and some other plays gave some real good advice. Yes, I its kind of strange when someone refuses to date/fuck someone of their own ethnicity. I think the real players out there don't discriminate. They have preferences, but they'll fuck any color as long as she looks good.

[Timoteo]

(04-14-2012 06:10 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  

I see a certain irony in these threads.

For example, an Indian guy will say, "I'm upset that I can't get dates with white girls." You say to him,"if you can't get white girls what's wrong with dating Indian girls?" He'll reply, "I don't like Indian girls, I want a white girl."

So if a white girl discriminates against your race in dating, it's wrong, but yet he's discriminating against women of his own race in dating or he wouldn't be so damned worried about white girls. You would think that white girls were single-handedly holding these guys back from having a sex life.

Is it just me or does anyone else see the irony? Nothing wrong with going for white girls if you want them, but don't bitch about rejections from them if you are rejecting other races as well(including your own). It's hypocrisy.

You're 100% right my friend. I've encountered people like this who somehow see themselves as more "open," because they pursue women outside their race, yet do so to the exclusion of women of their own race. They aren't more open - they just have certain preferences. You're not exceptional for forsaking your own people. I won't judge you for it, but don't run your mouth.

[Kish]

Does anyone here think the indian troll would reject this chic because she wasn't white? Come on. Actually would ANY man reject Shibani Joshi because she wasnt white? Please. Men care about LOOKS not RACE.

[Timoteo]

(04-14-2012 02:12 PM)rakishness Wrote:  

Does anyone here think the indian troll would reject this chic because she wasn't white? Come on. Actually would ANY man reject Shibani Joshi because she wasnt white? Please. Men care about LOOKS not RACE.

This isn't completely true across the board. Men defiinitely have preferences, and you can't separate race and looks. The woman in the video has fair skin, even though she's Indian. A white guy may find her attractive because of that, making the fact that she's Indian less important to him. If she were darker, her being Indian might matter a lot more.

[Kish]

I dunno. I just cant fathom a man refusing to date a chic with a nice ass, titties and a cute face JUST because she wasn't white. LMAO!

[Sebastian]

How about looking at situation from his standpoint? (this is part of asian culture. we try to put ourselves in their shoes when judging someone)
Is he the indian guy in India just looking for white girls?
Is he the indian guy living in U.S surrounded by mostly white people and indian girls are 1 out of 50 white girls?

What's the chance that 1 girl could be his type?
Out of 50 white girls, I say 25 girls would be fuckable, 15 girls would be good for dating and 5 girls would be his type.

So now, does he have to ignore all these girls and focus on that one girl??

How about this white guy flies to Shanghai. should he hangout at international bars to find his white GF? when there are literally other 1000s girls walking by him everyday??

(04-14-2012 06:10 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  

I see a certain irony in these threads.

For example, an Indian guy will say, "I'm upset that I can't get dates with white girls." You say to him,"if you can't get white girls what's wrong with dating Indian girls?" He'll reply, "I don't like Indian girls, I want a white girl."

So if a white girl discriminates against your race in dating, it's wrong, but yet he's discriminating against women of his own race in dating or he wouldn't be so damned worried about white girls. You would think that white girls were single-handedly holding these guys back from having a sex life.

Is it just me or does anyone else see the irony? Nothing wrong with going for white girls if you want them, but don't bitch about rejections from them if you are rejecting other races as well(including your own). It's hypocrisy.

[Sushifan]

Aw Jeeeez, not this shit again!

Man up and seek out, pursue, and bang whomever the F you want.

Some of my most memorable bangs have been with pure as the driven snow white girls who didnt want anyone to know that secretly they were my dirty little slut. And the israeli chick who was 19 and sexually naive... Until she parted her legs for a forbidden uncut meat pipe!

Quit bitching and whining and fix your head.

[kosko]

(04-14-2012 02:12 PM)rakishness Wrote:  

Does anyone here think the indian troll would reject this chic because she wasn't white? Come on. Actually would ANY man reject Shibani Joshi because she wasnt white? Please. Men care about LOOKS not RACE.

From fair skinned Welsh redheads to the darkest broads from Bangladesh my dick don't hate.

But it's not clear cut. Environment has a lot to do with it. Like the above mentioned if your surrounded by snow bunnies that will be your preference as its the most you would be exposed to on a numbers basis. Outside of the ignorant West there are parts for historical and cultural reasons look down or rival at different groups. But that is a whole different bag of worms and any well seasoned and articulate person should know what's up and act accordingly. But in the West it's no excuse. The hatred is manufactured and really has no base in reality.

[temprorarily return]

(04-14-2012 06:10 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  

I see a certain irony in these threads.

For example, an Indian guy will say, "I'm upset that I can't get dates with white girls." You say to him,"if you can't get white girls what's wrong with dating Indian girls?" He'll reply, "I don't like Indian girls, I want a white girl."

So if a white girl discriminates against your race in dating, it's wrong, but yet he's discriminating against women of his own race in dating or he wouldn't be so damned worried about white girls. You would think that white girls were single-handedly holding these guys back from having a sex life.

Is it just me or does anyone else see the irony? Nothing wrong with going for white girls if you want them, but don't bitch about rejections from them if you are rejecting other races as well(including your own). It's hypocrisy.

Was going to leave this forum for good but your post was just that d*mn provocative.

To all who thanked you, they are just disconnected from reality and do not know a thing about race relations, also they don't know any basic psychology.

Put yourself in the shoes of an Asian guy (maybe this doesn't happen with Indians, again, in So Cal we don't have many Indians).

Alright now do it. You are an Asian guy growing up in Southern California. All of the good looking women from your race are mainly going after White guys and you are left in the dust. You can date women of your own color but usually she will prefer a White guy over you and you will be treated second class. Now on the flip side, if you date a White girl:

1. You won't have that feeling of being treated like second class by one of your own
2. You can get back at the man for taking your women (maybe a bit extreme here but if you are a real man you know what I am talking about)

Bottom line is, Indian women and Asian women hate their own men even more than White women hate them. I am a neutral race, a black white mix who has been involved with asian women before. In fact, I have seen them actively bash their own men and discourage White women from dating them. All the bad words that get around about Asian men, guess who spread them? Thats right, Asian women raised right here in America. They tell it to all of their White friends.

Honestly, if I was the Indian guy in that situation, I would take a 3/10 whale before an Indian woman that would hate me anyways.

I mean it is hard to describe but imagine dating a woman from your own background that prefers a White guy over you. I would feel inadequate.

Go for the ban again admin, I personally didn't want this to turn out the way it did. I feel like I had a lot to contribute here. Though in all fairness, I would love to debate this race topic out because I was really not trying to sound discouraging at all.

[temprorarily return]

(04-14-2012 02:12 PM)rakishness Wrote:  

Does anyone here think the indian troll would reject this chic because she wasn't white? Come on. Actually would ANY man reject Shibani Joshi because she wasnt white? Please. Men care about LOOKS not RACE.

I would not reject her because she was Indian, I would reject her because she is not even that good looking. Seriously.

Odd but I find the darker exotic looking Indian women (Priya Rai and such) more attractive than their fair skin counterparts. That woman has too much make up on and I doubt she is that light in real life. I am not into Brown women with a whiter appearance, I prefer the natural beautiful dark brown skin tone over the palish one caused by those creams they sell in your country.

NEXT.

[temprorarily return]

I am going to give you guys a quick run down about race.

In reality, if I had a racial ladder of preference, it would go like this for women:

1. Latinas (Brown, think Selma Hayek)
2. Arab/Middle Eastern women
3. Black women of lighter complexion
4. White women from places like Italy, Spain, France, and Portugal (think White chicks with dark features)
5. Blondes from places like Norway and Sweden
6. Asian women
7. White women with medium features (aka the ones commonly found in America)
8. American Blondes aka the fake dyed ones
9. Gingers

Problem?

Well the problem is, in a lot of the richer well off areas you go to in So Cali, most women are either category 8, 7, or 6. The Asian women are SEVERELY White Washed, like, SUPER WHITE WASHED. So literally your option becomes:

1. Break through the racist girls (and you will have to lower your standards)
2. Be single

I have seen Indian, Asian, and Arabic men have success. Thing is they were very well off and in most cases, especially with the Indian guys, they would marry a girl who is White and she would cheat on him when he was away at work, I mean everyone knew she cheated on him.

Compared to Europe, it is extremely rare to see Asian, Brown, and non-White kids here in college date fine looking White girls. It happens in Southern California but if you are in say Georgia, South Carolina, and Florida, FORGET ABOUT IT.

I mean if a White chick who is in a sorority at an SEC school slept with a Black guy, she would be expelled from her group.

[temprorarily return]

Last but not least, the guy who made the Totem Pole completely faked it.

Dude, I am gonna be real. Most girls in America would take a Latino or Black guy in terms of looks well before a Turkish, Middle Eastern, or whatever guy. Same in Europe, just sayin.

[speakeasy]

(04-14-2012 04:38 PM)temprorarily return Wrote:  

Compared to Europe, it is extremely rare to see Asian, Brown, and non-White kids here in college date fine looking White girls. It happens in Southern California but if you are in say Georgia, South Carolina, and Florida, FORGET ABOUT IT.[/b]

I mean if a White chick who is in a sorority at an SEC school slept with a Black guy, she would be expelled from her group.

We all know this. As Athlone brilliantly summarized above, America is a country founded on racial hierarchy. You can use the law to undo that in the public sphere to a certain extent, but you can't do pass affirmative action for dating. So I just don't see any point in complaining about something nobody has any power to change. If I wanted to have a dating life, I know as a black man not to go live in some 95% white, conservative town in the south. Location is half the battle.

The flipside is that I'm sure some of these Asian and Indian guys want to date white girls as a way of saying they've made it and are accepted into America. Of course they never feel this way about black girls even though blacks have been in America as long as whites and have had a tremendous influence in American culture as well. But black women, noooo way. Only white for them. So that's why I don't feel all that sorry for dudes like the Indian troll. He'll probably turn down a Gabriel Union to be with some plain Jane white girl if he had the choice. So these guys have racist preferences as well, they just don't like when it gets turned on them.

I don't get the thing with those white-washed Asian women. I've seen Indian women just like this too. All I can say to this is that's often what happens when non-whites move to majority white societies. They begin to develop inferiority complexes and see dating white as some sort of escape from being what they are. I know an Indian woman who is just like that. Married a white guy, only has dated white guys and acts like she is super white. And there are tons of E. Asian women like too. The ones that grew up here, not the FOBs so much. I'd have way better luck as a black man with a FOB Japanese girl than some second-generation Korean sorority girl.

[lurker123123]

(04-14-2012 05:07 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

I don't get the thing with those white-washed Asian women. I've seen Indian women just like this too. All I can say to this is that's often what happens when non-whites move to majority white societies. They begin to develop inferiority complexes and see dating white as some sort of escape from being what they are. I know an Indian woman who is just like that. Married a white guy, only has dated white guys and acts like she is super white. And there are tons of E. Asian women like too. The ones that grew up here, not the FOBs so much. I'd have way better luck as a black man with a FOB Japanese girl than some second-generation Korean sorority girl.

think you nailed the reason

[Screwston]

Lol at that dumbass troll. Was that Indian Troll again?

[MrWombat]

Nothing, nothing at all in American culture makes sense until you factor in the racial angle. That's because class is central to society. In Britain, class is distinguished by the accent you speak with. In America, class is a function of race. The USA doesn't have "race prejudice" as much as you might suppose: much of it is class prejudice, and race is a proxy for what's really going on.

[Deluge]

(04-14-2012 04:38 PM)temprorarily return Wrote:  

I mean if a White chick who is in a sorority at an SEC school slept with a Black guy, she would be expelled from her group.

Can someone who hasn't been banned for trolling confirm or deny if this is true?

[YourHusband]

[quote] (04-14-2012 05:07 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

[quote='temprorarily return' pid='195107' dateline='1334439489']

I don't get the thing with those white-washed Asian women. I've seen Indian women just like this too. All I can say to this is that's often what happens when non-whites move to majority white societies. They begin to develop inferiority complexes and see dating white as some sort of escape from being what they are. I know an Indian woman who is just like that. Married a white guy, only has dated white guys and acts like she is super white. And there are tons of E. Asian women like too. The ones that grew up here, not the FOBs so much. I'd have way better luck as a black man with a FOB Japanese girl than some second-generation Korean sorority girl.[/quote]

um you know the reason why they develop such complexes are because they aren't considered attractive for an asian right? notice how the prettiest asian girls always seem to end up with asian guys and you never really see attractive asian girls with white men. the attractive ones don't have such self-esteem issues. an asian dude who is well above average in looks and is not a fob will be considered desirable by women of all races, as much of attraction is based on human nature. and for those who said asians do better in europe, that only applies to the good looking asian dudes as well; if you're one of those dorky ugly asian guys, you're still gonna have trouble.

and keep in mind that most white american women aren't exactly hot stuff themselves; walk through any public area in the country and you'll be able to see for yourself that majority of white women you walk by are not that good looking, so i don't see why some guys want to put them on some BS pedestal.

[Saweeep]

What an odd thread to bump!

I've gotta say though that it seems Americans are pretty hung up about race, full stop; men and women.

It's quite surprising for a non American.

It's also a really, really boring subject.

[Swordfish]

Its all in the head.

I think Asian-Americans already have a mental block from the way they grew up in the US

Being born in Asia, and only moved to the US after attending high school in Asia.....I was alpha as fuck in the US. Not the biggest guy or the smartest or richest, but confident and sure of myself. Hung out with black ballers and the main dope slingers on campus.

I went hard after the highest value women I came across. Which in the dumpy state I was in, meant only about 3 women really caught my attention in my first year there.

A blond 10, a redhead 9, and a Puerto Rican 10. I had no game but just went direct.

Only the blond 10 didn't bite because she was getting married.

Still, I have been dating all over the rainbow, with about 50 flags, from jet black to almost albino blonde. Admittedly with white being the majority but not on purpose

The thing that cracks me up is that Asian-Americans tend to have a superiority complex to Asians not born in the West, but you put me in any room filled with blonds with an Asian American, and I will smoke his ass.

In the end, its all about confidence about your place in the pecking order. Asian-Americans are badly handicapped in this respect.

[Beowulf]

As an ABC, I can definitely say for a fact that America is racist. Not in a "ship this Chinaman back off to the Orient" sort of racist, but a more subtle kind in the modern environment of "political correctness". While I personally feel that individual confidence and character overrides race, it takes a lot to overcome this hurdle, at least for a majority of ABC's. The race factor hasn't really bothered me much, as I've been able to do decently with girls of all races, although I did hear one girl say behind my back "I can't hook up with him. He's short and asian." The short didn't bother me much, but the way she sneered asian pissed me off. As an ABC, the idea of a girl rejecting you or having some subconscious bias against you because of your race will perhaps always be somewhere in the back of your head, whether or not you say it aloud. The challenge is not letting it get to you.

That being said, I've known some ABC's who can go to town and bang the blonde big tittied prom queen, but for each one of those there are at least fifty (or more) others who are anti-social CS nerds who couldn't get laid in a whorehouse. I think a problem for this is the utter lack of strong Asian American male role models. Try and name one, just one, masculine, confident, sexually attractive Asian American male figure in Hollywood or any American movie or tv-show who isn't a walking stereotype and doesn't know kung-fu. This rules out Jackie Chan (HK Chinese), Jet Li(Duh), and I'll tell you how many there are. None. Unless you count James Shigeta who had a fantastic, albeit unknown career to many modern day viewers. I highly recommend watching some of the films he starred in, particularly The Crimson Kimono if you want to get a good sense of some of the ABC psyche. The kicker is that all these films were in the 1960's when Hollywood was supposedly more whitewashed than it is now. I eagerly await the day when I can say Hollywood has progressed up to the 1960's.

[TheBlackRooster]

I see Asian-American men with white women all the time. Asian-Americans tend to be the most successful group in the States, and women are attracted to that. It's no issue. However, when it comes to religion... that's a different story. I haven't seen an Orthodox Jew/Muslim women date a person outside her religion.