[Windom Earle]

Apologies for the slight derail, but the content seems pretty relevant:

Just spent a great weekend away with probably the sexiest girl I've ever been with, getting into all manner of kinky shit.

Dropped her back on Sunday night, however, we weren't totally sick of each others' company, so she cooked dinner for me.

Not even five minutes after I left her place (around 10pm), a brazen cockhead (with limited English) that lives in the same apartment complex knocks on her door saying it's "apartment 2". He's flirted with her before, so she knew what was up.

She tells him to go away, but instead of doing that he manages to climb around the side of the building and onto her balcony. Her balcony door is open, which he opens slightly, sticks his head in and says "popcorn?" Fucking idiot.

She's screaming, crying and obviously shaken and tells him that she's calling the police (she tried to call me, but my phone was flat).

Police arrive, get shown evidence of his shoe marks etc, question him (which he denies doing it) and basically say they can't press charges.

I happened to cross paths with him last night, and against my better judgement, didn't punch him the fuck out but instead told him if I hear that he even says a word to her in the future, he's a fucking dead man. No response from him, which may be due to lack of English skills, but he would've got the picture from body language.

Meanwhile, she's too scared to sleep alone at her place and has her orbiters swarming around doing their bit.

Such a total headfuck of a situation, and not the first time she's had guys throw themselves at her.

[Ensam]

(02-23-2016 06:00 PM)Apollo21 Wrote:  

It really depends on what kind of player you want to be.

Once you get the skillset down, the real challenge is building your
business/social network so you can easily meet 9's and 10's without
spending hundreds of hours in a club or hoping the stars align
and you spot an elusive 9 on the street.

These days I just don't have time to play that kind of random, catch me if you can
hide and go seek game that makes it much harder to meet 9's and 10's.

For me a "must" means having a real social network....that means real relationships
+ regular events so you can meet women naturally without having to come in with
guns blazing.

So instead of becoming just another "gambler" in Vegas, you become the house.
And as we all know, the house always wins...

Beyond that, it's not really that complicated. Keeping a girl (long term)
is more about compatibility than anything else. Assuming you're doing your best,
and she wants to move on after six months, then you probably just don't have
a good match for whatever reason.

I can count on one hand the number of 9s and 10s I see in a year during my daily routine. Any advice on how to build a social network full of top tier chicks?

[WestIndianArchie]

If you want the harem of 9's and 10's,

Everywhere you go, the pretty girls want to be around the cool kids. Even if she's a goth girl or suicide chick, she wants to be with the thin and pretty trainwrecks not the fat girls with black fingernail polish. Those Cuban strippers want to hang with with the Dominicans and Puerto Ricans, not the Atlanta girls. The eastern European model hopefuls are going where the people are cool and have shit going on.

There's probably the same psychology with chicks in niqabs and the Amish.

Chicks are obsessed with social position. Its a war among women. We are actually props, like a purse or a nice necklace. Not that you red pill guys even care about understanding the motivations of women if it doesn't fit a graph of some kind.

Where there are people there are politics.

Your mission is basically to find the cool kids, bring them good value, and become one of them. Once you're a "made man" you can find more hot chicks through the social connections and attend the private parties where all of your approaches are warm. Secret society principles apply here as well.

Base line
- zero level is being in shape and dressing well. That doesn't mean custom suited down and 9% body fat. No beer belly. And if you have a Steve Jobs level of belief in self, that's not even necessary.

- have a style, a calling card, a look, a niche. You need an identity, you can't just be some regular/generic well dressed, in shape guy

- be in a major city for tens. Little Rock or Omaha is not going to cut it. NYC, L.A., Miami, Paris, London. Smaller cities don't have the population and turnover for model level chicks. But if you're in a smaller city, Minneapolis say, everything here applies. Chicks have the same social climbing instinct in Uganda and Yemen. Its a feature not a bug.

Circuit building
- You have to be in the scene. You guys only doing internet dates or going out on weekends can't do this method.

There might be internet ways to do this, that guy Hunter Moore cracked the code, but weekend warriors don't have enough contact.

- know the factions in nightlife - whales, owners, managers, promoters, security, door, bartenders, servers, waitresses, and strippers (they're often part of the scene but not necessarily a good part. Gangsters and drug dealers I wouldn't befriend cause they will get you hemmed up)

- meet and befriend the staff
- observe while you run your game, can you spot the regulars?

- You have to get in with the regulars. (Keep in mind the regulars aren't necessarily at the top of the social ladder) You need them to recognize you.

- you'll eventually figure out which group is at the top, often it's the promoters.

Bring value, be it cool chicks, or you have that personal energy that brings people up. If you're the sort of person that starts the party, then that's what they want.

Whether you want to start with the big dog or one of the side guys, that's up to you. I've done both, and starting at the top is faster and harder.

This is standard night game lock down technique.

It's the next step where it's much more up in the air.

The Long Game

So you're bringing new and cute chicks to these venues, your stock is rising with the staff and with the club regulars, and with the promoters. They are greeting you with joy. They know your name. You might start getting a little better treatment compared to the riff raff. People are having more fun and the business Issa making more money.

The general population doesn't see that your at these venues multiple times a week. When you show up Friday night and you're getting all this love, you've now got more going for you than better looking and richer guys. Used to call this social proof.

The tens in the crowd see this.
The tens that are at the table of the whales see this
The girls with the promoters see this

Of course you're still slaying cute/hot chicks. You're bringing cool chicks as offerings to the club, to the promoters, etc.. But now you're a peer to these folks, one of the cool kids.

That's when you start getting invites to the after parties, that's when you go to the all night diner with the crew.

That's when your in.

From there, you can start connecting up the regulars and picking up the friends of a friend. That's when you find yourself at those private rooftop parties and eliminating lesser chicks from your life.

It's a not so secret society.

I've done this, but I came in through the side entrance. Built value outside of the scene and brought the scene to me. And when the scene moved on, I stayed in with.a lot of those folks.

Brad P talks about this.
Distant Light lives this and talked about it often.

I lived this life for a couple years. Being in the limelight put me on the radar of dimes I dated. Without it, I could have landed them, knowing what I know, but if a chick is predisposed to hearing you, it makes the game easier.

The sticking points that most guys have
- they don't believe it's even possible. They think game is only one on one, like selling a used car (that's probably a lemon) Its why they never see the politician's game or the preacher's game.

- they assume money is involved or even useful in these scenarios, and they're assuming small fortunes on a regular basis. (They all want to be investment banker whales with tables thinking that people will just be drawn to opulence. Its the beta dream that they haven't shaken off yet. The currency of night life isn't money, it's cool (and often times drugs))

- they're still afraid to deal with lots of people. A lone chick, a couple, an all girl set no problem. This is dealing with mixed sets and befriending guys, but not to get at the chicks they brought that night, but to build mutually beneficial relationships.

- this is mostly all on the hush because talking about social climbing openly is always in poor taste.

That's pretty much it.

Recap
Get yourself in decent shape
Develop a good look
Start in a good city
Go out all the time
Meet the staff
Meet the regulars
Bring and be seen with cute chicks
Offer those chicks and your good energy to the top groups at these venues
Get in with the cool kids
Start going to their private events
Bang chicks on those circles

WIA

[General Stalin]

^ There are a few kinks in that racket I see being real limiting factors.

Any dude can get in shape. Yes.

Any dude can dress well. Yes.

Any dude can move to a 1st Tier city. Yes.

Any dude can go out regularly. Yes.

Deliberately befriending the in-crowd? This is where things get hollywood-esqe.

You mention bringing girls to the venues as offerings to these inner circle types to notice you. We're missing a step here. How do you corral groups of attractive women in the first place? You have to have already cultivated a lifestyle where you have multiple attractive girls at your disposal and in your social circle.

This sounds like it makes sense. Granted I've never lived it so I can't speak from experience.

Allow me to reword: the step where you break into the other people's world is where an individual's personality becomes the limiting factor. Not everyone is cut out to be Oscar Schindler.

Cultivating a gift-of-gab and the ability to be the "life of the party" is likely the most difficult game to build. Looking good, dressing well, making money, running game on girls, all things that can be achieved with relative ease given you can put in the time and effort. Being the "it" man would require a total personal transformation for most people that realistically most people simply aren't cut out for. There is where the "be whatever you want to be" fallacy comes into play. It's been said here by a few users (jariel comes to mind) and I totally agree: not everyone can be a jet setting location independent entrepreneur. Just like not everyone can be a nightlife god who's the one everyone wants to be around and is buds with all the fat cats and gets invited to all the cushy rooftop parties.

For most of us, it's a dream that we aren't cut out to live out. Call it defeatist, but I just call it realistic.

[Travesty]

Sounds like it is honestly less work and more easy to maintain either just being a promoter and making that your career with bartending on the side if you need extra money or go out and make enough money to become a venue owner.

Trying to wedge in like General Stalin said just seems difficult and ephemeral.

If you have the passion to go out 5 nights a week and entertain (bring value sure, but really since you aren't a permanent structure in this society, you need currency really to entertain them whether it is girls or your personality), why not just make it your profession and be the one permanently holding court?

Why try the hard way and live a double life? That seems the toughest route.

It is like saying I want to play pro-baseball so instead of going and playing for crap pay on the farm league team to gain skill and hopefully work up levels I am going to do a normal 9-5 (more likely 50+ hour weeks) then at night go to the batting cages and play in rec league hardball and wait for the try out for the major leagues?

The effort seems so great and you have to like that lifestyle so much why not dive in 100%? If I had the passion to go out 5 nights+ a week I would make it my profession.

[Stimulus]

Contribute to this forum so noobs like me can learn from them.

And steal lines, ideas etc.

[General Stalin]

(02-24-2016 01:06 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

Sounds like it is honestly less work and more easy to maintain either just being a promoter and making that your career with bartending on the side if you need extra money or go out and make enough money to become a venue owner.

This. In my opinion, the easiest option with the best outcome would be to become a DJ/EDM artist.

I was out at a club last weekend with a few forum members talking about nightgame and the paramount of nightlife: being the DJ.

The hardest part about it is making a name for yourself. I don't know a whole hell of a lot about trying to get gigs as a DJ in the club scene, but I imagine some lower level clubs may be willing to let you spin your shit for a night if you just send them a demo that sounds good and you ask for little-to-nothing. The exposure and potential access to groupie pussy is worth it alone.

If you can get gigs literally being the life off the party then you are set. You are in the circle automatically. Girls want to fuck you automatically. Keep in mind, all this can be had while you can be a fucking hermit, introvert, whatever. Everyone wants to hang with the DJ and every girl wants to fuck the DJ. It's the ultimate "cool" factor.

Bootleg some audio production software, watch a few youtube videos, browse some EDM forums, think up a weird but catchy moniker, and go to town..

[Ensam]

(02-24-2016 01:06 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

Sounds like it is honestly less work and more easy to maintain either just being a promoter and making that your career with bartending on the side if you need extra money or go out and make enough money to become a venue owner.

Trying to wedge in like General Stalin said just seems difficult and ephemeral.

If you have the passion to go out 5 nights a week and entertain (bring value sure, but really since you aren't a permanent structure in this society, you need currency really to entertain them whether it is girls or your personality), why not just make it your profession and be the one permanently holding court?

Why try the hard way and live a double life? That seems the toughest route.

It is like saying I want to play pro-baseball so instead of going and playing for crap pay on the farm league team to gain skill and hopefully work up levels I am going to do a normal 9-5 (more likely 50+ hour weeks) then at night go to the batting cages and play in rec league hardball and wait for the try out for the major leagues?

The effort seems so great and you have to like that lifestyle so much why not dive in 100%? If I had the passion to go out 5 nights+ a week I would make it my profession.

Yeah, I can't be out late 5 nights a week at a club and accomplish my other goals.

The trick seems to be finding a passion that overlaps with the scenes hot chicks hang out in. Unfortunately most of my hobbies are technical or mostly solo activities. The other places hot chicks seem to be: service industry, art scenes, music scenes, charity/non profit stuff. The basic blue print WIA outlined is still valid though, I think I just have to tweak it to align with my own interests.

[Travesty]

(02-23-2016 05:36 PM)Moma Wrote:  

I don't really see that issue with guys coming at my lizards. Maybe it's an American thing.

Add to the list of why maintaining a hot girl is much easier abroad - like here in Syria. Chicks go crazy for a guy that wears a grenade belt here.

[WestIndianArchie]

Anyone can be a nightlife God. Most guys at least.

But the question was about harem of tens.

And assumed in reply was the average to intermediate player who's sniping chicks one by one and taking them home. This is the guy that most night game players start as. One night stands with girls that only go to clubs on the weekend. This guy is not a nightlife God. He's a player doing what players do. Cold approaches on cute girls.

But back to tens

Ten behavior is just extreme girl behavior.

A random girl doesn't look to hook up with random dudes. She only bangs

1) guys she knows
2) guys that are off the charts in some ways

Universal constant and way before the red pill.

You know this, but *why* are girls like this?

One of the reasons is she cares a lot about her social status. Guys she knows are vetted, and a guy that is super hot, ripped, rich, famous...that is obvious.

But all the rest of the time she's cold towards strangers. You've got to have decent game to break the ice.

The Ten experiences this on a greater level. And she's even more conscious of her social status. Dealing with a woman who's been treated like a Ten runs the gamut. She can be pleasant and warm and you still can't break through. She can be a bitch, but that can work against her.

So to get to her, you have to go back to the list of who chicks bang
- guys they know, guys in their social circle
- guys that are off the charts

It's not easy to be opulently rich, famous, or have a perfect face. But those are all really secondary attraction strategies.

You know girls at this point, their social circles are in the thousands, but they typically only have close ties with a few dozen at the most.

But in a big city they often go out.

The real boss bitches aren't going into these places as civilians, they go as officers. They don't want to mix with the lower forms of life. I'm often surprised for how much hot chicks think about this.

Now, you can always cold approach a Ten. Run your game and break her mind.

But if you want success, you want warm approaches.

How do you become a guy in her real social circle?

Who does she hang with what you can get at?

In the club scene, it's promoters, djs, owners, whales.

You need to get next to them.

What do those guys want?

Fame attention accolades women drugs fun...

It's a lot of things

Owners tend to be scarce. They're usually not part of the chaos of a good club.

Club managers are working. Talk to those guys on during down time.

Whales, usually alphas in whatever made them rich are on their guard for leeches and parasites. If you're a legit up and comer in some other field, maybe you can connect, but that's never the place I've made those contacts with that angle. Rich guys especially, like to back winners.

So those three factions are on a lower level.

Promoters need chicks to come out.
Djs need a crowd to follow them from club to club

That's the set up.

What you're becoming is a free lance part time promoter without a club...kinda. You are becoming the connected guy by going out and making connections. You are the spider weaving a web.

Getting the chicks for this?

This is night game mastery, so you can't begin to do this if you're not getting regular one night stands with women that you can be seen in public with. You need to be hitting the clubs for your own immediate interests period.

Now,

I can ask two of my cute co-workers to go have done drinks after work at the chill new place. If I've already been there, I might be able to skip the line or get some special service.

If not, I make it a point to connect with staff.
Archie, how ya doing.

As happy hour goes on, I will flirt with co workers but also include passerbys into our conversation.

"Settle a bet" is the gambit I would use. If you run a holding court style game, it helps to be loud. If you're not loud, be animated. If you're not either, good material gets loud laughs.

So now I'm merging sets. I'm using co-workers as social proof and pulling in strangers.

If I'm really on my game I talk to every set that passes by, and when possible connect strangers. (This is mystery's group theory).

"Damn Sheniqua, you're from the Boot? Did you meet Darnell from Lafayette?" Then I might go find Darnell.

My co-workers will be having fun, strangers will be having fun, staff will be making money and ideally remembering the Method Man looking guy next time I show up.

I do this repeatedly, and now I'm a regular, but I also know the regulars.
When I bring Tamika and Keisha this time, I'm going to find Daqan chilling with his crew. I met Daqan a couple weeks back and turns out we're both comic book fans.

Now me and Daqan are bar buddies. And Daqan got hoes. I'll do the same thing with Miguel at the Cuban bar, and if possible with Ahmed at the hookah spot.

Everywhere I go I want to know somebody. (Right now, I'd kill for a local accountant)

These initial girls were co-workers. I'm not trying to bang, but they social proof me. They allow me to bring strangers into a conversation. I will bring a fat girl or a guy into the conversation.

I do all of these chess moves to connect with and become a part of the social fabric of that venue.

In my life, the first time this happened organically, but once you understand the incentives, you can create this artificially.

That was the happy hour version.

The night club version starts by running your typical group game at the happy hour place and heading over to the night club. Or it could be co-workers, classmates, random girls in your life.

Is it easier to convince two girls to bar hop with you, or convince one girl at the club to leave her friends and come to your place to Netflix and chill?

That's a tougher question than it sounds, but moving groups of people from place to place is part of your regular night game. Post club night, I'd say 50% of the time I'd convince a two set or three set to hit the late nite diner. This is a BASIC pickup skill. If you don't practice venue changes you will lose bangs.

This is the same thing bit earlier in the night.

You leave the happy hour with two girls you just met to hit this super happening club..you're totally overselling the dance club, but now you're walking in with two cute chicks.

Make this a part of your skill set, and you get on the radar of the regulars and the promoters and the staff.

You do the same set merger things where you hold court with the two you brought and anyone who passes by.

I'm getting in the radar of the folks that matter, but also figuring out who matters.

Approach the dj or promoter. Get their names, get on the list they have for promotion, grab a phone number.

Bring chicks you know.
Bring plates and chill fb's.

Introduce your chicks to these dudes.

This is maybe a season worth of work, but it should be fun.

WIA, WHERE ARE THE TENS? GET TO THE TENS DAMMIT!

Glad you asked

The hot girl click typically know all the different pieces of the puzzle. What they don't know is you?

They might be chilling with the promoter at goods table or in the dj booth. When you bring your regular chicks that you know from work or from happy hour, you introduce these broads to the men, and to their tens chilling with these guys in the scene. You're not running game on these tens, but now because of your association with a top guy in her social circle, you get on her radar.

Before long you can say what's up to Danette whenever you see her. She is often out with her girls or sometimes solo. But you're playing the long game here.

Danette got other hot girl friends. Plus your cool guy/dj/promoter homie might be into the girls he brings to the venues with him. The other girls are the main targets, the chicks around the nightlife providers are Secret Society.

So your aim is to get on this hot girl's radar and others, but also see what happens when you get to the after hours aspect of the night life.

None of this is Michael Jordan territory.

Your getting a cute girl or a couple of cute girls to come drink with you, hang out.

You're showing staff that you can bring in valuable bodies.

You're easily talking to strangers and making bar friends.

Your getting noticed by the people who have an interest in encouraging you, the staff.

Your just introducing random cute girls to the gatekeepers of cool, the promoter and dj.

By giving the men more chicks to possibly bang, you're then introduced to the chicks you want.

Most guys that are past the approach anxiety stage are probably doing this now, but without any sense of purpose or direction.

Sorry for the long post.

WIA

[WestIndianArchie]

Only people that have never dj'd think that is an easier route. It's like the kid learning to play guitar so that next year he can get laid like Adam Levine. And few promoters make enough cash to do it full time.

I'm saying build a real cool social life. Even If you want good night game, it's at least two school nights and a weekend for three or four months.

Once you realize how much fun it is, especially compared to school and most jobs, it's easy to go out a lot more. On top of that, you're making friends.

If you do it properly and don't get hammered you have enough time for proper nutrition and working out.

But honestly if you're not already hitting the spots for same night lays now, and that is more frustrating than addicting, then trying to climb the social ladder to get meaningful access to the private house parties of hot girls isn't for you. And that's okay. But to get extreme results you can't play the game at half speed.

But if you want a rotation of smoke shows, hitting the nightlife is a lot easier than trying to become famous.

WIA

[WestIndianArchie]

(02-24-2016 01:06 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

Sounds like it is honestly less work and more easy to maintain either just being a promoter and making that your career with bartending on the side if you need extra money or go out and make enough money to become a venue owner.

Trying to wedge in like General Stalin said just seems difficult and ephemeral.

If you have the passion to go out 5 nights a week and entertain (bring value sure, but really since you aren't a permanent structure in this society, you need currency really to entertain them whether it is girls or your personality), why not just make it your profession and be the one permanently holding court?

Why try the hard way and live a double life? That seems the toughest route.

It is like saying I want to play pro-baseball so instead of going and playing for crap pay on the farm league team to gain skill and hopefully work up levels I am going to do a normal 9-5 (more likely 50+ hour weeks) then at night go to the batting cages and play in rec league hardball and wait for the try out for the major leagues?

The effort seems so great and you have to like that lifestyle so much why not dive in 100%? If I had the passion to go out 5 nights+ a week I would make it my profession.

Going pro is much harder than this.

The promoter is always selling and never enjoying. He's working when he's at that table drinking Grey Goose. He has to go out every night. He has to stay at dead clubs. He has to fight with the club owner for his take.

When you become a connected regular, the most you're doing is going out for shits and giggles and bringing random chicks along, something that is in your tool belt if you're pulling chicks from the club.

Your rent doesn't depend on your smile.

But I can't sell folks on night game in general, much less how to see things in real life that you only see depicted in movies.

WIA

[Travesty]

I think the toughest hurdle is not drinking too much. When I go out 3+ nights in row, night one if I am rusty I need to drink a lot to get in the mood.

By night 2 depending on my mood I go even further in party spirit or drink only a few. By night 3 in a row the mental after buzz of going out and drinking two nights in a row I am almost in the same mood as if I were drinking quite a bit. My suit starts to feel like a tank top and shorts at the beach.

Worst part is waking up after Night 3 I want to drink in the morning when I wake up.

When I enter the venues I don't give nearly as much of a shit having my antennaes on.

I can see what it would be like going out 20 nights+ in a month your whole demeanor changes to be more relaxed, and you have no emotional investment on if it is an amazing night or an okay one.

Now for the guy that is rusty with bad logistics going into the city to spend $75 (taxi, cover, alcohol to get comfortable, and of course late night moping junk food to comfort the L) or more on a night that may not shake out it is different.

[AneroidOcean]

(02-24-2016 02:39 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

Sorry for the long post.

WIA

Get the fuck outta here with your apology.

WIA dropping valuable ACTIONABLE knowledge in here.

You take the wind right out of my and I'm sure other poster's sails, all ready to type up their version and then reading yours and realizing you already killed it. All I can add is a TL;DR that is a mantra of mine:

TL;DR - You have to give value to get value.

[realologist]

(02-24-2016 12:20 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  

^ There are a few kinks in that racket I see being real limiting factors.

Any dude can get in shape. Yes.

Any dude can dress well. Yes.

Any dude can move to a 1st Tier city. Yes.

Any dude can go out regularly. Yes.

Deliberately befriending the in-crowd? This is where things get hollywood-esqe.

You mention bringing girls to the venues as offerings to these inner circle types to notice you. We're missing a step here. How do you corral groups of attractive women in the first place? You have to have already cultivated a lifestyle where you have multiple attractive girls at your disposal and in your social circle.

This sounds like it makes sense. Granted I've never lived it so I can't speak from experience.

Allow me to reword: the step where you break into the other people's world is where an individual's personality becomes the limiting factor. Not everyone is cut out to be Oscar Schindler.

Cultivating a gift-of-gab and the ability to be the "life of the party" is likely the most difficult game to build. Looking good, dressing well, making money, running game on girls, all things that can be achieved with relative ease given you can put in the time and effort. Being the "it" man would require a total personal transformation for most people that realistically most people simply aren't cut out for. There is where the "be whatever you want to be" fallacy comes into play. It's been said here by a few users (jariel comes to mind) and I totally agree: not everyone can be a jet setting location independent entrepreneur. Just like not everyone can be a nightlife god who's the one everyone wants to be around and is buds with all the fat cats and gets invited to all the cushy rooftop parties.

For most of us, it's a dream that we aren't cut out to live out. Call it defeatist, but I just call it realistic.

You're right that it's not for everyone. It's not for people that don't like night game but if you want to have a constant stream of young dime pieces(hottest girls in the city) around you, this is the best way to get it done.

It's not as difficult as you make it seem though. Go to place where all the hot chicks go on an off night. Unless you're there as a hermit you will talk to the people that own it, work there, etc. You will build a relationship with them that other people don't have because you go there when it's slower.

There doesn't have to be a motive for getting the place in lock. Just be a friendly human being and it can happen faster than you think. Bring a good vibe, bring good people and you can get the hottest girls in the area. Where I was at a dime piece was rare but you better believe the 7 and 8s rained with an rare 9. These were the hottest chicks.

Either way to get the hottest chicks and dime pieces be the top of your environment and scene. That's the main point of his post.

[Giovonny]

A man doesn't "have to" do anything.. Unless, he is a slave.

A king does what he wants. A slave does what he can.

A player is choosing to play the game.. So, he can play however he wants -- Night game, day game, online, travel, asians, latinas, blacks, whites, 10s, 9s, 8s, 7s, 6s, flashy, conservative, edgy, basic, single, committed, etc.,etc.

Whatever the fuck you want. It's your life.

A man doesn't have to prove himself sexually to another man.

He should define his own sexual success.

He should do what he wants to do.

That is the essence of freedom.

And freedom is better then pussy.

In my opinion.

The only things I "have to do" are eat and sleep -- The rest is just details, details that are fine tuned for MY enjoyment.

[Apollo21]

(02-24-2016 08:34 AM)Ensam Wrote:  

(02-23-2016 06:00 PM)Apollo21 Wrote:  

It really depends on what kind of player you want to be.

Once you get the skillset down, the real challenge is building your
business/social network so you can easily meet 9's and 10's without
spending hundreds of hours in a club or hoping the stars align
and you spot an elusive 9 on the street.

These days I just don't have time to play that kind of random, catch me if you can
hide and go seek game that makes it much harder to meet 9's and 10's.

For me a "must" means having a real social network....that means real relationships
+ regular events so you can meet women naturally without having to come in with
guns blazing.

So instead of becoming just another "gambler" in Vegas, you become the house.
And as we all know, the house always wins...

Beyond that, it's not really that complicated. Keeping a girl (long term)
is more about compatibility than anything else. Assuming you're doing your best,
and she wants to move on after six months, then you probably just don't have
a good match for whatever reason.

I can count on one hand the number of 9s and 10s I see in a year during my daily routine. Any advice on how to build a social network full of top tier chicks?

The "social" playboy approach does take a lot of work
and honestly requires you to dedicate most of your life to
going to parties and connecting with people just so you can meet
cute girls you want to sleep with...

It's a lifestyle that most guys are not going to be able
to sustain without paying a price somewhere along the way.

If you want to do all of that then more power to you...
Finding 9's and 10's is a combination of dedicated effort and
good fortune.

If I wanted to make sure I had a steady supply of 9's and 10's
in today's economy, I would provide a basic service like helping
fitness models promote their services, or getting involved with
language learning, or selling something that attracts 9's and 10's
like fitness gear/apparel for women.

The "partyboy" approach can work but you'll spend a lot of energy
and potentially not make much progress in other areas of your life.
It's better to create something of value that naturally allows you
to meet amazing, beautiful women by creating a modern system
rather than going out everyday hunting for them.

[Remington]

(02-23-2016 11:01 PM)Windom Earle Wrote:  

Apologies for the slight derail, but the content seems pretty relevant:

Just spent a great weekend away with probably the sexiest girl I've ever been with, getting into all manner of kinky shit.

Dropped her back on Sunday night, however, we weren't totally sick of each others' company, so she cooked dinner for me.

Not even five minutes after I left her place (around 10pm), a brazen cockhead (with limited English) that lives in the same apartment complex knocks on her door saying it's "apartment 2". He's flirted with her before, so she knew what was up.

She tells him to go away, but instead of doing that he manages to climb around the side of the building and onto her balcony. Her balcony door is open, which he opens slightly, sticks his head in and says "popcorn?" Fucking idiot.

She's screaming, crying and obviously shaken and tells him that she's calling the police (she tried to call me, but my phone was flat).

Police arrive, get shown evidence of his shoe marks etc, question him (which he denies doing it) and basically say they can't press charges.

I happened to cross paths with him last night, and against my better judgement, didn't punch him the fuck out but instead told him if I hear that he even says a word to her in the future, he's a fucking dead man. No response from him, which may be due to lack of English skills, but he would've got the picture from body language.

Meanwhile, she's too scared to sleep alone at her place and has her orbiters swarming around doing their bit.

Such a total headfuck of a situation, and not the first time she's had guys throw themselves at her.

Just an assault charge waiting to happen.