[Greek kamaki]

Countries where you achieve dominance.

With girls it is important to achieve dominance to display high status.However in some countries the local environment will never let you achieve dominance.These are mostly the Germanic countries.Germanic people are tough and are considered by many the toughest on earth.So why should they allow you to dominate and impress women?For them you are just another Kanake.

So in a danish environment for example you have to crash the Viking dominance.It is very difficult since Vikings are Vikings they were seldom defeated in the past.You can very easily achieve dominance in countries which were defeated in the past multiple times like Poland because this has made people submissive and destroyed morale.

In a country like Denmark for example the interactions of the Balkan Greek with the Viking Danish are quite complicated.The mind of frame is as follow:

Balkan Greek:You Dane are completely irrelevant.You have no style no temperament no interest you are boring like hell I deserve all the girls.

Viking Danish:You Greek are a low life,scammer nothing at all.Noone respects you and we are a nation of winners we are the Vikings and noone has ever dared to challenge our power.

So when you hit on Danish girls for example the Dane will get to them with disgust and tell them get away from this piece of shit.They are just sleasy you know them the Mediteraneans.The Danish women as strong will obey to the national order and not comply to Greek power.So in this point you have to increase power and threatening dominance.Then Danes become even more agitated and they react as a whole.

In any case the game escalates and it comes down to which side will get the other to its knees usually in the scandinavian environment your chances are slim but in the Greek environment they are much better it is like the basketball team playing in front of their fans at home and then outside home.

So despite Danes and Germanics in general not having any game the brutal power they can display enforced by protestant ethics and Viking tradition can really diminish your chances to get hot girls.

So you have to point the problem out and tryt o reverse the situation beat the Danes in their own field.

[Spike]

(02-24-2012 09:42 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

Countries where you achieve dominance.

So in a danish environment for example you have to crash the Viking dominance.It is very difficult since Vikings are Vikings they were seldom defeated in the past.You can very easily achieve dominance in countries which were defeated in the past multiple times like Poland because this has made people submissive and destroyed morale.

Nonsense.

Vikings lived a 1000 years ago and Polish people have very strong willpower and survival skills ( read up on your WWII history). They were never submissive.

I think your way overthinking this.

[Greek kamaki]

It is not like that.Poland was partitioned humilated invaded and occupied multiple times.Sweden has never been occupied by any foreign troops.Polish women are way more submissive and low self esteem than swedish women.

[Spike]

(02-25-2012 05:21 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

It is not like that.Poland was partitioned humilated invaded and occupied multiple times.Sweden has never been occupied by any foreign troops.Polish women are way more submissive and low self esteem than swedish women.

I don't think occupation of a country has nothing to do with the self esteem of girls. especially when its 70 years ago.

From wikipedia ; During the German invasion of the Soviet Union, Sweden allowed the Wehrmacht to use Swedish railways to transport (June–July 1941) the 163rd Infantry Division along with howitzers, tanks and anti-aircraft weapons and associated ammunition, from Norway to Finland. German soldiers traveling on leave between Norway and Germany were allowed passage through Sweden — the so-called permittenttrafik. Iron ore was sold to Germany throughout the war.

you don't think if Hitler wanted Sweden he would have crushed the Swedish military and just took the country like he did in the whole of Europe ?

The swedes were actively helping hitler and making some huge profits on iron ore.

wikipedia: Perhaps the most important aspect of Sweden's concessions to Germany during the Second World War was the extensive export of iron ore for use in the German weapons industry, reaching ten million tons per year. The Swedish neutrality policy meant that the government could not interfere with the trade. As Germany's preparations for war became more apparent and the risk of another war became obvious, international interest in Swedish iron ore increased. At the time, British intelligence had estimated that German industry relied heavily on Swedish iron ore and a decrease or halt in Swedish ore exports could have a disastrous effect on Germany's military efforts. This is a contentious view that has been debated in the aftermath of the war.[attribution needed] Sir Ralph Glyn, a British Member of Parliament, claimed that a cessation of Swedish iron ore exports would bring the war to an end within six months.

[Greek kamaki]

The Swedes made tons of money by exporting iron and rulemans to the German Reich during the war.They were paid in hard cash and gold.The Norwegians had also their Waffen SS and the Finns took considerable help from Wehrmacht to battle against the Russians.

It is remarkable that Wiking SS comprised of Swedish,Norwegians and Danish volunteers was considered among the best divisions and founght till the end in the battle of Berlin.

Denmark put absolutely no resistance to German troops they opened their borders and Germans occupied the whole country in 24 hours.It remained in German hands till the end of the war since there was no resistance at all.

Slavs on the other hand were killed in masses by the Germans.They killed about a million Poles,10 million Russians etc they just left Czechs intact because they regarded them fit for Germanization.

Anyway this is not the topic of the thread I just wanted to point out that nations who have never been defeated decisevely like the English,the Scandinavians are much more hardcore than nations who were always defeated like Poles,Ukrainians,Belarussians.Russians are a special case they always manage to take revenge and you will come across it when meeting Russian women they never get back and try to get the maximum benefits.

German women display some kind of submissiveness due to Germans having been defeated quite a few times in the past.If Hitler had won the war a foreigner man would just be conisdered fit for a cleaner or cook in best case.

[dk902]

Kamaki I think some of your insights are good.

However the threads on various nationality traits are borderline troll and don't really have any basis in logic. They're just sweeping generalisations.

Quote:

German women display some kind of submissiveness due to Germans having been defeated quite a few times in the past.

Is it really because they were defeated in WW1 and WW2 that they make a conscious effort to appear submitted? Or a combination of cultural norms?

I think you need to think out your posts a bit better as sometimes they appear to be a mash up of your thoughts, as opposed to in a carefully written out in a logical manner.

[Greek kamaki]

I tried to connect behavior of women to genes,economical issues and cultural historical issues.For example you may have an economically advanced country which was defeated in the past so not only one factor comes into play.

Anyway since pick up has always a social side what you really do can be interpreted in a magnitude of ways and attempts to achieve superiority in Scandinavia are usually fruitless.

Women there are also warriors so to say.

[Vicious]

I'm on my android so I can't reply in full until later. In short my opinion of the OP goes like this: farfetched platitudes with loose historical connection AKA utter bullshit.

[Marco]

(02-25-2012 05:21 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

Polish women are way more submissive and low self esteem than swedish women.

The main reason for that is communism regimes which though ended still have massive consequences on the society.
It is actually true to all of the soviet block, women level was very low in the past and they had to rely on strong men. No liberalism, no feminism, girls were raised to take care of their men.
Things are changing but it takes time. For us those places are pussy heavens but still we would not like our daughters to grow up there.

[Greek kamaki]

It is not only communism.Latvia,Estonia,Czech Republic were also communist countries but mentality of women there is considerably different than in Poland.

Anyway trying to analyze the effects of communism they mainly had to do with things like:

1.Destruction of middle class which deprived the women of a stable background and opportunities to get a decent man.Moreover destruction of high class meant that not many women aspiring to get to high levels remained so their requirements were drastically reduced.

2.During communism everyone had to work it was obligatory.So women lost the chance to sit on their lazy asses after marrying some provider man.This caused further compromises to women.

3.During communism as everyone was considered equal women could not afford to be snobby.Being snobby and nose up meant that you would never get your neighbour's help when needed and neighbour's help was essential to cope up with the everyday difficulties caused by the ineffective bureaucracy.

4.Since everything belonged to state the only property remained in hands of women was their pussy and they had to make the best use of it.In fact it was the only weapon in many cases for them to get to some good party position.

5.Communism created an infrustructure which vastly facilitates pick up with big avenues for strolling,huge parks in the centre of the city and big blocks of flats with common open places where people gather.So by just walking on central square you see many women sitting with friends drinking etc which in capitalist economies happens inside malls mainly.Generally since there was no shopping culture in former communist countries the places where people gathered were public and open to everyone so you do not have to deal with angry employees like when you are trying to pick up girls in malls ''disturbing their potential clients.''

6.Communism destroyed private ambitions and made people much more humble.Everything depended on the state so a bitchy woman would not get any benefit since this would not promote her career in any way in any corporate ladder.Competitiveness aggression were discouraged as private enterprise everything was regulated.

7.In communism to get an apartment you had to be married.So many women tried to get married as early as possible which meant they had to put out quickly and get pregnant so they lowered their standards regarding men.This is sth the foreigners have exploited in an extent.

8.Since shopping and other entertainment possibilities were way restricted compared to western societies the only entertainment which remained in many cases was fucking and women made use of it.State did not control fucking so especially in villages in former eastern Block orgies took place.(there was absolutely nothing else to do).See the famous czech pornstar Rosenberg for example who claims that in a summer in 1979 in communist Czechoslovakia he had sex with over 100 women he picked up in the street.

The whole sex fun was further exacerbated by the sexual revolution coming from the West in the '70s which hit Poland as a big wave from the eighties till now.

9.Impoverishment effects.These were different according to each country.Hungary and Czechoslovakia were relatively better Poland and Romania were in far worse state.At those state a foreigner comingto these countries with a western perfume,socks for women or even serviettes(in former eastern Block they did not even have serviettes) could lay a model woman giving her one of these gifts.Women knew that foreigners came with goodies and searched for them.This was also one of their hopes to get hooked with a foreigner and escape the misery of former communist Block.

10.Atheism promoted by communist authorities further degraded every morality left and women were free to do what they liked that is fucking like rabbits.Church was actively prosecuted and forbidden.

[Spike]

(02-25-2012 07:57 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

I'm on my android so I can't reply in full until later. In short my opinion of the OP goes like this: farfetched platitudes with loose historical connection AKA utter bullshit.

I highly agree with Vicious on this. You should stick to busting out datasheets on places which you did well before and not give your opinion on the mindset of the local women because its clearly nonsense you're writing.

For every good post you write, you also write 4 borderline trollish and bullcrap posts.

I'm getting kind of Dash Global vibe here where i cant trust the writing of a poster. Sometimes he knows he stuff and sometimes it crap. Not saying you are dash btw its just the same vibe.

[Atlantic]

(02-24-2012 09:42 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

Countries where you achieve dominance.

With girls it is important to achieve dominance to display high status. However in some countries the local environment will never let you achieve dominance. These are mostly the Germanic countries. Germanic people are tough and are considered by many the toughest on earth. So why should they allow you to dominate and impress women?

Unless they have me pinned to the ground with a gun pointed in my face there is little they can do to stop me from running game on their girls. Like it or not if I am running good game, am well dressed and have the means to provide a good time there is very little they can do to stop me.
I’m not trying to invade their villages just their local girl’s pants.

I believe what you are saying is complete nonsense. If it was true though it still wouldn’t matter and could be easily overcome with good game and social presence.

Try to keep the posts on here constructive and the information of a certain standard.

[cCcincisikercCc]

I don't think there is any solid relationship with where a girl is from and how she behaves.. At the end we are all individuals..

For instance Turkey has been conquered by practically everyone: Greeks, Persians, Romans, Slavs, Ottomans.. But does that mean Turkish girls are usually submissive and obedient or take other peoples shit? NO. SHIT. Turkish girls are the most stubborn I have ever experienced.. They think they are the most important things in the world and deserve to be treated like queens and stuff.. Same with Greeks. It has been under Roman rule and then after Ottoman rule for 400 years. Does that make Greek girls or people submissive or obedient?

I don't think Polish or Lithuanian or whatever people are less tough or anything than a Dane or Swede. It just depends on the person not the country.

Every country in this world has a culture and a history to be proud of..

[Greek kamaki]

Yes,but Turks came later.They were never conquered.

Greece was occupied and humiliated by Romans and later Germanics ended every Roman rule by putting German emperor in Rome so mediteranean rule over Europe was practically finished.

UK has never been conquered and they display imperial status.Anyway since this discussion is not appealing if you do not agree that historical events have drawn lines on local female psyche I will withdraw from this discussion.

[Atlantic]

(02-26-2012 08:41 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

I will withdraw from this discussion.

Thank you.

Maybe you contributed somewhere else on this forum but based on this tread alone you would want to rethink your thought process and logic because the above argument is annoyingly illogical for some many different reasons.

[dk902]

(02-26-2012 08:41 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

UK has never been conquered and they display imperial status.

I think as well revising your posts you need to brush up your history kamaki.

The UK was conquered in 1066 by foreign invaders. This nonsense about imperial status is bs which few girls know or care about.

I think you should stick to datasheets.

[Hades]

Though I am flattered by your analysis (as a very nordic dude), I assure you that most blond blokes are gigantic pussies and you can roll over the majority of them no problem. They will only AMOG you while they are drunk. The majority of them will usually be very nice to you if you tolerate a little of their bullshit and laugh at their jokes. This is the same for 95% of all men. I am also a pussy.

[birth]

so much bullshit. I'm pretty blazed right now and I can't see any logic behind this. Not even in this state of mind

[Marco]

(02-26-2012 04:01 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

It is not only communism.Latvia,Estonia,Czech Republic were also communist countries but mentality of women there is considerably different than in Poland.

Your'e detailed answer actually confirm that the communism is the main cause.
The 3 countries above were also the same or even better than Poland girl-wise in the 90s, but as they are much smaller and had more western influence, today they are different.

[SVK]

(02-26-2012 04:01 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

It is not only communism.Latvia,Estonia,Czech Republic were also communist countries but mentality of women there is considerably different than in Poland.

Anyway trying to analyze the effects of communism they mainly had to do with things like:

1.Destruction of middle class which deprived the women of a stable background and opportunities to get a decent man.Moreover destruction of high class meant that not many women aspiring to get to high levels remained so their requirements were drastically reduced.

2.During communism everyone had to work it was obligatory.So women lost the chance to sit on their lazy asses after marrying some provider man.This caused further compromises to women.

3.During communism as everyone was considered equal women could not afford to be snobby.Being snobby and nose up meant that you would never get your neighbour's help when needed and neighbour's help was essential to cope up with the everyday difficulties caused by the ineffective bureaucracy.

4.Since everything belonged to state the only property remained in hands of women was their pussy and they had to make the best use of it.In fact it was the only weapon in many cases for them to get to some good party position.

5.Communism created an infrustructure which vastly facilitates pick up with big avenues for strolling,huge parks in the centre of the city and big blocks of flats with common open places where people gather.So by just walking on central square you see many women sitting with friends drinking etc which in capitalist economies happens inside malls mainly.Generally since there was no shopping culture in former communist countries the places where people gathered were public and open to everyone so you do not have to deal with angry employees like when you are trying to pick up girls in malls ''disturbing their potential clients.''

6.Communism destroyed private ambitions and made people much more humble.Everything depended on the state so a bitchy woman would not get any benefit since this would not promote her career in any way in any corporate ladder.Competitiveness aggression were discouraged as private enterprise everything was regulated.

7.In communism to get an apartment you had to be married.So many women tried to get married as early as possible which meant they had to put out quickly and get pregnant so they lowered their standards regarding men.This is sth the foreigners have exploited in an extent.

8.Since shopping and other entertainment possibilities were way restricted compared to western societies the only entertainment which remained in many cases was fucking and women made use of it.State did not control fucking so especially in villages in former eastern Block orgies took place.(there was absolutely nothing else to do).See the famous czech pornstar Rosenberg for example who claims that in a summer in 1979 in communist Czechoslovakia he had sex with over 100 women he picked up in the street.

The whole sex fun was further exacerbated by the sexual revolution coming from the West in the '70s which hit Poland as a big wave from the eighties till now.

9.Impoverishment effects.These were different according to each country.Hungary and Czechoslovakia were relatively better Poland and Romania were in far worse state.At those state a foreigner comingto these countries with a western perfume,socks for women or even serviettes(in former eastern Block they did not even have serviettes) could lay a model woman giving her one of these gifts.Women knew that foreigners came with goodies and searched for them.This was also one of their hopes to get hooked with a foreigner and escape the misery of former communist Block.

10.Atheism promoted by communist authorities further degraded every morality left and women were free to do what they liked that is fucking like rabbits.Church was actively prosecuted and forbidden.

I grew up in Slovakia and there is a lot of truth in this post. Maybe aside from the orgies in villages, that just sounds bizarre. Never heard about anything like that. Commies were preaching sexual restraint and the society was quite conservative. And, although religious belief was being actively discouraged by the communists, and being professed atheist was requirement to success in the Party or one's career, the (Catholic) church was still around and a lot of people were religious, especially in Poland and to a lesser degree in Slovakia. In the Czech lands, yes, atheism became prevalent, I suspect this is due to the fact that the Czech lands were traditionally protestant and progressive, so Communism just accelerated the natural progress of secularization (compare to traditionally Protestant Scandinavia that also has high levels of atheism).

[Greek kamaki]

About orgies in villages I have been told by Russians and Czech women only( I remember one Czech girl who told me:I do not like Prague.Too much work too little time for fucking.I prefer my hometown less work and lots of fucking).I do not know any other place where this took place although quite a few polish girls have told me that students organize drunk gangbang parties in Poland in house parties.(they tell it as a missing thing in Greece you do not have gangbang parties here).

[SVK]

(02-26-2012 06:10 PM)Marco Wrote:  

(02-26-2012 04:01 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

It is not only communism.Latvia,Estonia,Czech Republic were also communist countries but mentality of women there is considerably different than in Poland.

Your'e detailed answer actually confirm that the communism is the main cause.
The 3 countries above were also the same or even better than Poland girl-wise in the 90s, but as they are much smaller and had more western influence, today they are different.

Yes, exactly, it's about western influence, westernization of the society and economic development.
Also, we all know about the crowds of horny westerners flocking to Latvia since it got a reputation as a "pussy paradise" -> this quickly caused the girls being jaded with them to the point where being from country like Britain is a serious DLV and automaitic sex tourist label instead of the DHV it was 15 years ago.

[SVK]

(02-27-2012 02:16 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

About orgies in villages I have been told by Russians only.I do not know any other place where this took place although quite a few polish girls have told me that students organize drunk gangbang parties in Poland in house parties.(they tell it as a missing thing in Greece you do not have gangbang parties here).

Maybe, not sure about Russia at all. I'm only talking about my experience in communist Czechoslovakia. Russians have very different mentality than the Western Slavs (Czech, Slovakia, Poland). Also the communist rule was much, much tougher and longer - Czechoslovakia had communism only for 40 years while Russia had it for over 70. In FSU the Bolsheviks burned churches and killed the priests, nothing like that ever took place in Czechoslovakia. The standard of living was much higher in Czechoslovakia as well.

[Greek kamaki]

This is true.However sexual revolution hit Czechoslovakia with force in the 70's and you see till now many nude tourists all over coming from there.The culture is very liberating.You go to forest in Czech and there are girls with bras or topless in pic nic.I remember staying at my girlfriend's house in a Moravan town and opposite to us a naked woman was sunbathing in her balcony.Noone at all paid any attention it is considered normal.

Unfortunately the society in Czech Republic seems to be in an inevitable road of Germanization and many slavic features have completely vanished.Czechs may lose their identity after some time although their nationalism is strong and always use Russia as counterbalance to German cultural invasion.

[SVK]

As for the Kamaki's Ethnic trolling - I actually get that a little bit, I think it does matter in Europe to a certain degree. That's why I like America - if you are European, it is a big plus no matter where you are from. Some accents/countries are definitely cooler than others (broads just love the British accent), but any accent is better than just being native.
You should come to USA, as a smooth Greek guy you would clean up, no doubt (if you could find any hot girls, haha)