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Why it's better to be Beta
02-15-2012, 08:22 PM
I believe that the terms beta and alpha male have been redefined and reworked beyond recognition.
But still, a castrated (beta) male is much less of a threat and does not impinge on the 'strong' & 'independent' view of how the world should be (in her image, of course). There are more and more females who prefer this type of complacent male. I see it in the US and EU all the time. esp among the 16-20 yo. crowd.
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Why it's better to be Beta
02-15-2012, 08:42 PM
These feminists and chumps seem to operate under the assumption that the characteristics of a "nice man" are incompatible to those of an assertive, confident male.
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Why it's better to be Beta
02-16-2012, 03:21 AM
These shitty articles about betas come only from the (flawed) assumption that the Beta is the 2nd most important member of the tribe (as implied by 2nd position in Greek alphabet) who gets to fuck all women whom the Alpha can't fuck, which is many of them. But it's not true. In reality, the top 10% alphas directly and indirectly hoard over half of quality women. The Beta male is left with nothing. We don't live in tribes. The Beta as these articles fantasize it to be would still be extremely Alpha in our world (think Charlie Sheen just after Silvio Berlusconi).
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Why it's better to be Beta
02-16-2012, 12:43 PM
I always believed in taking bits and pieces of anything I read and use it in a way that best suits me. I am not trying to win some "Alpha Man Of The Year" award. I am trying to bang chicks with as little money and little time spent while trying to maximize her looks.
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Why it's better to be Beta
02-16-2012, 12:55 PM
Quote: (02-16-2012 09:58 AM)Roosh Wrote:
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If your'e American and a natural Alpha... and want to do well in Europe, I'd probably tone it down a bit. Girls actually like nice guys over here.
Yes, game is local.
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University of Stirling found that large numbers of women did indeed favour manlier men. So far, so good for the alpha male.
The problem? Those women tended to live in poor countries where disease was rife. The researchers theorised that manly, alpha males tend to have plenty of testosterone swimming round, and testosterone is suggestive of good, hardy genes (for rather complex biological reasons). Women in poor countries fancied alpha males most because those tough genes would be passed on to any resulting children.
But the same results were not found in women from rich countries where everyone has plenty to eat and easy access to good healthcare. In those countries, the alphas had no mating advantage, the study found.
First, it's hard to imagine that alphas have
no mating advantage in these countries. How did they define alpha and how did they define mating advantage?
More beta-style game being effective is evident in Scandinavia to some extent. But the opposite is true too, that affluence frees women to pursue the alphas they crave. I wonder why it has different consequences in different affluent countries. Roissy had a great post arguing that prosperity is the problem -
http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2012/02/1...e-problem/ - but prosperity has different results in different cultures, even if the end result for society will end up being the same.
As for alphas having more, shorter relationships - sign me up!
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Why it's better to be Beta
02-16-2012, 03:46 PM
Quote: (02-16-2012 12:05 AM)hydrogonian Wrote:
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Asshole game works, no doubt, but its not the only way to play the game.
There is definately a point where it can start to work against you. I find that I need to have a balance with msot women now, but its not alwasy easy to know where the ideal balance lies. Usually, the more experienced a woman is the more that she is receptive to nice guy game (due to her being damaged by assholes).
Young girls = direct / asshole game
Older women / damaged women = nice guy game mixed with enough directness to communciate that it's not your first rodeo.
As someone whose target group is more or less 26 to 38 I have found this to be true.
What works for me is to be strong alpha with some assholish mixed in for the first 30 min or so. This sparks her attraction and establishes your alpha cred.
After that mixing together nice guy with occasional flashes of alpha gives her the impression that she could have a relationship with you but that you would remain sexy and attractive to her i.e. not a pushover
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Why it's better to be Beta
02-17-2012, 03:13 AM
Indeed! Where is this other Europe? Obviously, Eastern Europe doesn't count.
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02-17-2012, 09:54 PM
Those old spice commercials are always fucking hilarious. I love it.
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