Quote: (02-09-2012 03:55 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:
Yeah, California is a different place than it was 15 years ago.
I told people when the cigarette ban happened that it was going to be the tip of the iceberg for loss of freedom.
Now you can't:
Drink on the beach
Smoke on the beach
Smoke in parks
Drink in parks
Now you can't even throw a football!
There is no end in sight.
There really is no end in sight. California has been co-opted by, for lack of a better phrase, holier-than-thou left-wing tyranny. And I'm a progressive Democrat.
Here's where it started for me: Way back in the 1990's, I was talkin' to a tasty leftist Northern Cali chick. You know the drill- being charming, getting her hot n' heavy interested (she was) trying to take it to the next level. We're on the same political "team" So I'm talking to her about the struggle, the good fight, blah blah. I said something to the effect like "So as black folks, in our communities we realized..." Then she interrupts: "
You mean African-Americans?" I'm like "WTF??"
At that point I'd never talked to someone who absolutely knew what was best for me. How I should define myself. The height of arrogance and paternalism. This was some new and advanced s---.
And so it developed over the years. People are taking the "we know what's best for you" stuff further and further in Cali, banning smoking...and more...now SF is trying to ban f---ing Happy Meals!!! Then with the same breath these people will talk about freedom and personal f----ing liberties and other asinine s--- all day. When Southern Conservatives ban stuff, they're evil. When the Cali folks do it it's ok. When the Conservatives do it, I get p---ed off and fired up, but IMO, neither they or the Cali Mafia have any clue what personal liberties are. Nor do they respect them. They only respect their own opinions, sensibilities, tastes, and conveniences.
I'm a progressive democrat but I realize this isn't politics, but neurosis. So I call them on it. I have SF homies so into banning stuff, but they don't do s--- about slums in Oakland or migrant farm workers living in misery 50 miles away from them. It's a perversion of left wing thought and annoys the living f--- out of me. And as G says, there's no end in sight. (I'm very pro choice, but if you ever want to be kicked out of a house in Cali, ask a girl why they can have abortions but you can't have a cigarette)
There was a great article in the Daily Beast/Newsweek that discussed this unique Cali approach:
Death of the Dream
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/20...dream.html
"Today the
politics of narcissism is most evident among "progressives." "
It's sad because I look to Cali for new progressive ideas. The whole thing kind of reminds me of the Big Lebowski- all the old weird, goofy liberal types who made Cali such an interesting place are fading away and the replacements are really, really getting on my last M----- F----- nerve, yet I want to support them.
Quote: (02-12-2012 10:33 PM)Tail Gunner Wrote:
That is the same argument that kept African-Americans in segregated schools and buses for nearly 100 years.
I hear ya'. It's called the Tyranny of the Majority.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyranny_of_the_majority
About 47 billion volumes of philosophy have been written about it, yet somehow, everyone ignores it when it doesn't fit our needs.