I just noticed that there's no data sheet on Puerto Vallarta, Jalisco. MX
Member Sly sent me a PM asking for info so I'm going to post what I know, I went there on July 2010 and stayed in an all inclusive resort close to Malecon, the hotel was Buenaaventura, cheap and ok food, http://www.hotelbuenaventura.com.mx/index_ing.php
So the data sheet:
Info: Vallarta was a fisherman town, is a puerto not exactly a playa so the sea is not as calm as Cancun, in fact, Vallarta is the worst beach that I have been on Mexico, locals told me is because it was raining but I didn't like it, lots of rocks, I did a lot of kayaking and enjoyed it a lot though. Is a 4hr drive from GDL and has planes from all over Mexico and the US. Data sheet on GDL here http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-4066.html
Some years ago Puerto Vallarta used to be a primary gringo destination, both from old people and young spring breakers, unfortunely(or fortunely for some) violence started to emerge in the north of the country but gringos, being as naive and ignorant as they are decided that all MX is the same(like saying that Detroit and Miami are the same) so cruise ships and spring breakers decided to abandon Puerto Vallarta(some still go there but not as much as before).
When spring breakers crashed the city and old people/families complained, businessman decided to build another place, Nuevo Vallarta in the state of Nayarit, 30min away from Puerto Vallarta, Nuevo Vallarta is aimed for the old retired people, the beach is much nicer and you have the huge all inclusive resorts, not a lot of party so try to avoid nuevo vallarta and go to Puerto instead, is also cheaper. What happenned with Nuevo Vallarta is that now is divided, all the old people and families go to Nuevo Vallarta so Puerto became an accesible destination for mexican people(it was expensive before) so is now a prime party destination for mexican students that don't have the budget for Cancun/Playa del Carmen/Cabo. Puerto Vallarta is more expensive than Mazatlan though.
Is cheap to move around on taxi, in general they are honest and speak basic english.
The good thing is that Vallarta is close to the states that produce the best looking mexican girls(is in Jalisco, Sinaloa, Sonora, Chihuahua)
Safety: Don't act stupid, don't look for coke the moment you arrive, don't go to narcoplaces(taxi drivers know and can inform you of the places to avoid)
When: There's always people in Vallarta but the most busy dates are the Semana Santa-Pascua(this year is April 1-14) and the summer(July is the busiest). Also the Mexican Federal Holidays(February 5, March 21, May 5th, September 15 and 16, November 20)
I went summer 2010 and I catched lots of mexican high schoolers celebrating their graduations, most of them stayed in their own circle but a friend got lucky.
Areas: There are 3 areas in Puerto Vallarta: Malecon, Zona Romántica(GAY) and Marina. You want to stay as closer to Malecón as possible, all the nightlife is in Malecón.
You can go and day game on Vallarta downtown, just at the end of the Malecón. All Malecón is a prime day game spot, a street facing the sea, in downtown there are a lot of places that sell excellent seafood and a museum with the history of Vallarta and the Mexican Navy, is nice. Spanish is required for day game, for night not that much.
Nightlife: As I said before, I went almost two years ago but I just called a friend and asked and apparently from a few bars all things are the same:
Zoo Bar: I went there on wednesday and it was wild, the place was nothing special but there was a good party atmosphere, really cheap, middle class. My friend told me that now is more lower class and regaetton, ONS almost sure if you have game.
El Hilo: I went on thursday, bottle service pushed, nice music but bad service, my friend told me that now is lower class too. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Hilo-CluB...1812045643
Mandala: Great place, two(or three floors), nice music, dance, good prices, a good mix between a city and a beach club. Friend told me is still the same.
Xtine: Went there on Saturday, more of a city club, bottle service pushed but dance floor and great possiblities of hooking up, nice place, upscale, expensive by mexican standards, met a few girls, made out, no bang. Friend said is now more upscale so is kind of fresa.
Punto V: NEW, friend told me is not as upscale as Xtine but a great place.
http://puntovnightclub.com/galeria.php
Señor Frogs: Gringos, more of a college atmosphere, like McFadenns on DC and every other Señor Frogs in the world.
Hard Rock: Never been, not my kind of place.
Roo: New place, friend told me is good, middle class.
There are a lot of cuban and salsa, bachata, merengue places but I don't dance that good so I didn't go.
As always in LatAm, the more gringo or black you look the better, the upper clases go with their social circle and speak english but gringos are not a novelty for them, lower class is a novelty for them but don't speak that much english. You should target the middle-upper class from other mexican states celebrating something(graduation, bachelorette, etc.)
Member Sly sent me a PM asking for info so I'm going to post what I know, I went there on July 2010 and stayed in an all inclusive resort close to Malecon, the hotel was Buenaaventura, cheap and ok food, http://www.hotelbuenaventura.com.mx/index_ing.php
So the data sheet:
Info: Vallarta was a fisherman town, is a puerto not exactly a playa so the sea is not as calm as Cancun, in fact, Vallarta is the worst beach that I have been on Mexico, locals told me is because it was raining but I didn't like it, lots of rocks, I did a lot of kayaking and enjoyed it a lot though. Is a 4hr drive from GDL and has planes from all over Mexico and the US. Data sheet on GDL here http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-4066.html
Some years ago Puerto Vallarta used to be a primary gringo destination, both from old people and young spring breakers, unfortunely(or fortunely for some) violence started to emerge in the north of the country but gringos, being as naive and ignorant as they are decided that all MX is the same(like saying that Detroit and Miami are the same) so cruise ships and spring breakers decided to abandon Puerto Vallarta(some still go there but not as much as before).
When spring breakers crashed the city and old people/families complained, businessman decided to build another place, Nuevo Vallarta in the state of Nayarit, 30min away from Puerto Vallarta, Nuevo Vallarta is aimed for the old retired people, the beach is much nicer and you have the huge all inclusive resorts, not a lot of party so try to avoid nuevo vallarta and go to Puerto instead, is also cheaper. What happenned with Nuevo Vallarta is that now is divided, all the old people and families go to Nuevo Vallarta so Puerto became an accesible destination for mexican people(it was expensive before) so is now a prime party destination for mexican students that don't have the budget for Cancun/Playa del Carmen/Cabo. Puerto Vallarta is more expensive than Mazatlan though.
Is cheap to move around on taxi, in general they are honest and speak basic english.
The good thing is that Vallarta is close to the states that produce the best looking mexican girls(is in Jalisco, Sinaloa, Sonora, Chihuahua)
Safety: Don't act stupid, don't look for coke the moment you arrive, don't go to narcoplaces(taxi drivers know and can inform you of the places to avoid)
When: There's always people in Vallarta but the most busy dates are the Semana Santa-Pascua(this year is April 1-14) and the summer(July is the busiest). Also the Mexican Federal Holidays(February 5, March 21, May 5th, September 15 and 16, November 20)
I went summer 2010 and I catched lots of mexican high schoolers celebrating their graduations, most of them stayed in their own circle but a friend got lucky.
Areas: There are 3 areas in Puerto Vallarta: Malecon, Zona Romántica(GAY) and Marina. You want to stay as closer to Malecón as possible, all the nightlife is in Malecón.
You can go and day game on Vallarta downtown, just at the end of the Malecón. All Malecón is a prime day game spot, a street facing the sea, in downtown there are a lot of places that sell excellent seafood and a museum with the history of Vallarta and the Mexican Navy, is nice. Spanish is required for day game, for night not that much.
Nightlife: As I said before, I went almost two years ago but I just called a friend and asked and apparently from a few bars all things are the same:
Zoo Bar: I went there on wednesday and it was wild, the place was nothing special but there was a good party atmosphere, really cheap, middle class. My friend told me that now is more lower class and regaetton, ONS almost sure if you have game.
El Hilo: I went on thursday, bottle service pushed, nice music but bad service, my friend told me that now is lower class too. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Hilo-CluB...1812045643
Mandala: Great place, two(or three floors), nice music, dance, good prices, a good mix between a city and a beach club. Friend told me is still the same.
Xtine: Went there on Saturday, more of a city club, bottle service pushed but dance floor and great possiblities of hooking up, nice place, upscale, expensive by mexican standards, met a few girls, made out, no bang. Friend said is now more upscale so is kind of fresa.
Punto V: NEW, friend told me is not as upscale as Xtine but a great place.
http://puntovnightclub.com/galeria.php
Señor Frogs: Gringos, more of a college atmosphere, like McFadenns on DC and every other Señor Frogs in the world.
Hard Rock: Never been, not my kind of place.
Roo: New place, friend told me is good, middle class.
There are a lot of cuban and salsa, bachata, merengue places but I don't dance that good so I didn't go.
As always in LatAm, the more gringo or black you look the better, the upper clases go with their social circle and speak english but gringos are not a novelty for them, lower class is a novelty for them but don't speak that much english. You should target the middle-upper class from other mexican states celebrating something(graduation, bachelorette, etc.)
