MikeCF, I'm pretty sure we're saying the same thing when it comes to the useful parts of grappling. Staying in a good position. The reason the Krav Maga dudes get stomped in your gym is because they train to escape. It's a different game.
They're not training to stay in the pocket and throwing straight punches and body shots. Nor are they training to pass guard and get into a position to submit. They're training to stay aware and create distance.
Mount escapes and basic sweeps are all someone has to master to survive on the ground in a street fight.
You say you've in in a 100+ street fights. Were all of those fights fair and one on one?
PS. Most of those "street fights" that the Gracies won were through the Gracie Challenge, where they would invite anyone to fight inside their gym or go challenge other gyms or set up a meet. They were always one on one and always had rules and a sense of honor. Not what I would call a typical street fight.
Plus, that vid, where do you see CLEARLY any grappling training? It looks like maybe he had a couple of boxing lessons. The other guys walk up to him hands down heads up they're just asking to get knocked out. If you mean at 1:07 when that fat guy tries to grab the puncher's shirt and the puncher steps back, it just looks like the fat guy slips and the puncher moves out of the way. Hardly takedown defense. Probably just instinct because someone is coming toward him.
They're not training to stay in the pocket and throwing straight punches and body shots. Nor are they training to pass guard and get into a position to submit. They're training to stay aware and create distance.
Mount escapes and basic sweeps are all someone has to master to survive on the ground in a street fight.
You say you've in in a 100+ street fights. Were all of those fights fair and one on one?
PS. Most of those "street fights" that the Gracies won were through the Gracie Challenge, where they would invite anyone to fight inside their gym or go challenge other gyms or set up a meet. They were always one on one and always had rules and a sense of honor. Not what I would call a typical street fight.
Plus, that vid, where do you see CLEARLY any grappling training? It looks like maybe he had a couple of boxing lessons. The other guys walk up to him hands down heads up they're just asking to get knocked out. If you mean at 1:07 when that fat guy tries to grab the puncher's shirt and the puncher steps back, it just looks like the fat guy slips and the puncher moves out of the way. Hardly takedown defense. Probably just instinct because someone is coming toward him.