Quote: (06-23-2016 09:08 PM)Gmac Wrote:
Bingo. Lock them into an event, especially something they've never done before.
This is the great advantage for a man in his prime (30s), you have knowledge, experience, and access to lots of "cool shit."
Take advantage of those "cheap thrills" and be the guy to give these young girls their first taste of life.
Quote: (06-21-2016 05:46 PM)DonnyGately Wrote:
Quote: (06-21-2016 11:47 AM)DannyAlberta Wrote:
Gaming pretty young girls in this day an age (where they have nearly infinite options and the West is a penis paradise for them) is going to be very challenging.
But it's not at all. IMHO it's gotten easier and easier the past few years. They want new experiences and older guys can offer that.
99% of guys just have horrible/mediocre game. You have to have tight game, you have to offer something, you have to be interesting, and be somewhat attractive to her from the jump. As we always say, you can't force attraction.
Or guys target too many red-light girls -- If she says she has a bf and she actually has one at home who she loves, but you are gonna waste 1-2 hours on her because she's cute....I mean she's not going to turn you away if she loves attention.
Guys make so many basic errors - not building comfort, not venue bouncing, not push/pulling, not backturning, getting oneitis, getting upset when they do/say something dumb, expecting to get laid every time out, expecting every # to become a date, not having backup plans if she flakes, terrible logistics, no ability to converse about something she finds fascinating.
This is straight on. Sad this post didn't get more "likes" but everything here is absolutely on point, despite being a bit vague and conceptual.
Seriously, newbies, re-read that post quoted above. These are experiences you need to have and internalize. Shit is not going to go the way you want it to. You have to learn to roll with the punches but not be a bitch. All of this takes time, energy, and experience. Bitches are flakes, but some girls are cool. Learn to be a man who can be chill most of the time but get fired up when it matters. Be interesting. Travel. Do "cool shit" and live to talk about it. Strive for perfection but don't make excuses or complain when things do go 100% your way.
Thanks for the props, I appreciate it. I actually thought much of the advice was somewhat specific as possible. I always tell guys here to be the best dressed guy she'll see all night and then newbies whine about being t-shirt and jeans guys, or not having money, or etc. There's always an excuse, right? It's funny, guys want to be told 'how' to be interesting.
Let's give specific examples from last night. Booked dates with 4 girls, had another text me for drinks. I had told all of them I was only free last night. They all know I'm significantly older than them, I don't try to hide it.
First girl was a cool, funny girl with a 9.5+ body and 8 face. You could tell she was a little nervous and insecure, but we bonded quickly over our backgrounds. I got her talking about growing up and she said how she was always the ugly duckling and still doesn't think she's good-looking, but she's actually a model with an absolute perfect rack and thin waist, the kind guys will immediately stop on the street to talk to, drool over, clown themselves. Lucky for me, she is into much older & well-dressed guys and loves fashion.
Within 30 mins she's telling me how much she likes me - I'm now giving her interview advice as she just graduated. She's talking so much she apologizes but she's clearly anxious to impress. I tell her I have another date and have to leave soon after ~1.5 hrs of drinking. I can tell she's a little shocked but walks me to the next venue so we can keep talking -- asks why I booked another date and I told her because of flakes and she warned me she would be a bit late due to work, so she used up part of her time with me.
One way I built comfort by saying she must get a lot of attention from creepy dudes, does she like sushi and she now thinks I'm a genius who gets her. She made me promise a specific date and time for our next date.
2nd one is cute, puts a lot of effort into her makeup, hair, and outfit, shows her assets really well, loves fashion and would like to do KimK's makeup for a magazine cover. I was late but she was very nice and sweet girl but boring to me, too quiet. This girl is perfect marriage material for some guy, also only 21. If settling down and having a family was a priority for me, I'd definitely see her a few more times.
3rd one is a younger college girl, dressed professionally [office, not escort] very slim, medium height and in nice heels. We grab mojitos and start talking about what I do at work, what she wants to do. She's asian and parents immigrated here, definitely ambitious and driven, plays multiple instruments so we talk about the Orchestra. I'm playing with her long black ponytail. I leave her at the table to get the next round of drinks which takes a while, sit back down on couch she slides over, presses up against me, start making out. I tell her we should go somewhere private and she starts stroking me in the elevator. End up going back to her place since her roommates are out of town. Asks to see me again after.
What are some 'generics' you have to use? You have to get her talking about herself, family, dreams, hobbies, fashion, whatever. If she's not investing it's not happening. You have to initiate contact as early as is reasonable - I'm always touching their hand or arm to make a point, moving up to the shoulder, hair. If she leans back then back off until she's more comfortable, have her lean in next time. If she's attracted she'll start leaning into you, putting her legs next to you, facing you with whole body, 'accidentally' rub your foot, legs, hip with hers.
As the drinks flow and it gets later I'll stroke their legs. I always grab their hand and lead when we leave a spot, grab her waist, let my hand linger on her hips & ass. Elevators are your friend! Some girls are shy about kissing in public but some it gets them immediately wet - they get turned on by your desire. They'll still kiss you if they are shy, but they'll stop quicker.
You don't have to be rich, ripped, smarter than them, famous, hilarious, have concert tix, or any one thing you think she likes. Be confident. Be bold. Be congruent. Always aim high. Hygiene and logistics need to be on lock.
Never texted back the 4th girl and forgot about the 5th entirely. Both are very cute and tall, but had no flakes but no time for them. Maybe this weekend. There are so many hot college girls and graduates out there living with Mom/Dad they are dying to meet new guys.