Quote: (01-30-2015 11:34 PM)dog Wrote:
Quote: (01-30-2015 11:03 PM)Sonsowey Wrote:I've thought about this a lot. Patriarchy is necessary but not sufficient for long term human civilization and technological progress.
Michele Houellebecq's new book, Submission, presupposes that social conservatives in Europe would get exactly what they want (patriarchy, traditionalism, etc.) if only they would forget about Christianity and go with Islam. Certainly Islamic countries are patriarchal.
Islam is either lacking or suppressing something that is inherently important. All societies that embrace Islam wholesale end up stagnating or going back to primitivism (which is no different than the feminist West where we are increasingly seeing primitivism in the sexual marketplace).
I don't think the West has a "Get out of Jail Free" card by embracing Islam.
What gains that patriarchy may have given those societies. May have been undone by other means.