Quote: (12-18-2014 07:14 PM)Libertas Wrote:
Quote: (12-18-2014 06:28 PM)Switch Wrote:
I think it is high time the US took on North Korea and liberated those people. It wouldn't be very hard, in fact it would be hilariously easy, likely with very few casualties on the US side. If I was Obama I would be getting tired of Korea's bullshit and human rights violations. Would be a lot better use of funds to liberate North Korea than the war that never ends in 'insert lucky middle eastern country of the year here'.
OK, would you support a draft for such an expedition? Would you be willing to possibly have your name selected in such a draft to go over there and "liberate those people?"
If not, we know such a thing is bullshit.
As for the situation, just another example of a pussified and totally emasculated country. A shitty movie is getting pulled, but now every faggot in the world is going to be emboldened to issue threats demanding for studios to pull things they don't like.
Oh hell no. I'm not going to war with NK because Angie Jolie's panties are in a twist over some mean Hollywood exec's emails. This is such bullshit. If this turns into some international incident, Obama is worse than Bush II when it comes to inventing pretexts for war.
Some anonymous government source comes out and says on background that it was NK, and some cretin from the NY Times who can barely use a computer let alone understand how to carry out a cyberattack prints this? Please. Listen to people like Bruce Schneier and Peter Singer
http://www.wired.com/2014/12/evidence-of...k-is-thin/
Singer put in the best thing I've read on this
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/reactio...-of-stupid
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What has happened to Sony already does not meet the definition (of terrorism). They're saying 'This is an act of war.' We're not going to war with North Korea over this act just because Angelina Jolie is now mad at a Sony executive. Acts of war have a different standard.
We're talking about going to war over a bunch of celebrity egos?
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This same group threatened yesterday 9/11-style incidents at any movie theatre that chose to show the movie. Here, we need to distinguish between threat and capability—the ability to steal gossipy emails from a not-so-great protected computer network is not the same thing as being able to carry out physical, 9/11-style attacks in 18,000 locations simultaneously.
Or even one location. One guy with a computer and a network connection can penetrate a corporate network. One guy with a bunch of guns might be able to kill a couple dozen people. Which brings up the next point:
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It is mind-boggling to me, particularly when you compare it to real things that have actually happened. Someone killed 12 people and shot another 70 people at the opening night of Batman: The Dark Knight [Rises]. They kept that movie in the theaters. You issue an anonymous cyber threat that you do not have the capability to carry out? We pulled a movie from 18,000 theaters.
And finally, to the effect of this. I don't pay much attention to Hollywood, but I didn't even realize this movie was being made. Yet here I know about it because of this.
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This is bringing such publicity to this movie that, for all we know, isn't all that good. It definitely wouldn't have gotten this much free or paid publicity. The problem is, if you don't release the movie, you can't make lemonade out of lemons. That's where they're at right now. By caving in, they may think they're cutting their losses, but they're setting an absolutely horrible precedent that makes every other company less safe moving forward.
Now IF NK were involved (and we don't have any evidence they are, they haven't even claimed credit), you can't expect them to be intelligent enough to realize that there are better targets than Sony, or that it could have been worse for Seth Rogen's career to release this movie. But you have to expect that. NK is a bunch of punks. We're supposed to act like civilized people, yet most are too scared to leave our homes and the rest of the country is acting like we should launch the mother of all white knight crusades against a country that's practically in the Middle Ages.
Jesus, this is fucked up.