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(12-05-2014 03:55 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 09:16 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 09:37 AM)TheWastelander Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 09:30 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

The thing is, the police offer was just following orders. If he were to be arrested for following orders, then the entire system would undermine itself to the point of being inoperable. Cops are selected for their obedience to the law. They don't want cops who use discretion in enforcing the law. They want obedient soldiers.

This guy put Eric Garner in a chokehold because those were his orders. The problem isn't the cops, the problem isn't racism, the problem is the laws themselves.

- Illegally selling cigarettes? Talk about a bullshit law.
- Cops being told to use near lethal force at the first sign of resistance? Good for preserving the cop's life, bad for preserving citizen's lives. Where is the balance?

People are focusing their efforts on the wrong problem. It's not the cop who matters, he was just a peon following orders. It's the entire system. But people can't see the big picture, they can only focus on the particulars. Hence the escalating race relations.

He wasn't ordered to choke Garner out. In fact, the chokehold is against NYPD policy. So if anything, he violated "his orders."

If the cop was violating his orders and protocols he would have been found guilty and thrown in jail. Since he was not found guilty it follows the chokehold was part of his orders.

Come on mate, you're not that stupid. The blues never convict their own in such circumstances.

Actually the NYPD brass throws their cops under the bus ALL THE TIME..EVEN when they don't have to. I know many who were canned for stupid shit, that could have been legally forgiven. That being said since I think the NYPD and mayor said they don't think it was a choke hold..they propably won't.

Tbh the decision will be made by Bratton under the urging of Mayor. None of them are wearing blue so to speak since those are political positions. NYPD commissioner is a political position NOT a civil service uniform one. Kelly hated his own cops for example.