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(11-01-2014 11:23 PM)Americas Wrote:  

(11-01-2014 10:38 PM)Feisbook Control Wrote:  

Oh yeah. So you believe in evolution, huh? What do you think about HBD (Human Biodiversity), i.e. that there are significant differences, including regarding intelligence, between races? This is the one that always catches liberals out because they won't go the whole way and be consistent in their beliefs. They will apply the theory of evolution to every species except humans, which proves that they don't really believe in evolution. Rather, they're just trying to grandstand and score points off the religious right.

Do you understand the difference between species and races?

Species are affected by evolution and all living humans are the same species, homo sapien. Race is a social construct and has no real taxonomic purpose.

Really? So a chihuahua and a Doberman are essentially the same? Or how about a border collie and a golden retriever on an intelligence test? Same species, right? Any population, even within a species, can obviously be affected by either natural or artificial selection in the same way that different species can.

Even then, the line between species is not always hard. In North America, for instance, wolves and coyotes have been known to interbreed.

Race amongst humans is also not just a social construct. There is a continuum between different races or certain mixtures, but if we consider certain physical features, we can broadly distinguish races. For instance, if you saw someone with pale skin, hair and eyes, which continent would you suppose his ancestors to have come from? (Don't be a clever clogs and say Africa.) Likewise, certain groups of people are far more likely to be susceptible to certain diseases, whilst such genetic predisposition is almost non-existent in other groups of people. Is that a social construct? Furthermore, when it comes to athletics, certain groups of people completely outperform others. Why are the top ten fastest times for marathons all held by East African men (not African in general, but specifically East African)? Is this merely a coincidence? Is it because of social conditions? Why do East Asians typically outperform those of European heritage on IQ tests, regardless of whether they grew up inside or outside the West, especially despite having lower levels of "privilege"? Why do Ashkenazi Jews outperform everybody else (including East Asians)? Why do men tend to outperform women on tests of spatial reasoning but women tend to outperform men on tests of verbal ability? Are all of these differences just social constructs?

Why would it be the case that evolution had an effect upon millions of other species and subgroups within them, and even upon human beings up until some arbitrary and politically correct point in the past, but not for humans, not recently enough to matter? What's this magic deus ex machina, if not a god of some form? I figure that if you're going to buy a theory, then you have to be consistent with it, even when that leads to uncomfortable places.