Quote: (10-19-2014 06:50 AM)Parlay44 Wrote:
I think rolling with a wing is ideal. It negates the "creepy" vibe. You can open girls together. He can fill in the blanks when you can't think of things to say. You can jump on grenades for each other. It can be fun even if you don't score that night.
I've never had it improve things, even with a wing I'd considered nearly ideal. Any creepy vibe can be wiped out within 1 minute, but being with a wing who is too awkward/timid or too 'machine-gun-approach-like' by even a small amount will hurt you.
And no-one wants to jump a grenade, and this can often sour things. Also if you assume 50% 'girl likes guy' chance (obviously it's lower), the chance of 'two girls like two separate guys not independently selected' is 25%.
As a personal anecdote, I remember being in a club in SE asia once by myself, and a table of 3 ugly chicks in their 30s and 1 loud-mouthed douchebag guy, all American (or at least speaking with American accents), were sat at a table not far from where I was standing. I overheard the guy talking mockingly about a 'lurker'. I looked in his direction and he grinningly remarked 'Oh look he saw us!' to the girls, and they laughed with him and joined in the mockery. Patronizing pieces of shit, one of the very few times I've ever been disrespected or mocked just for chilling out by myself, and unsurprisingly by westerners.
About 15 minutes later I got past the hook-point with a smoking hot chick I had pulled from her friends as I was walking around (she was marginally crazy, but damn hot). After chatting a while, I moved her to another part of the bar to get some drinks. I deliberately walked her past the douche-bag table every time we moved. Wiped the grins of their faces beautifully. Felt good man.