Quote: (06-10-2014 08:13 PM)champ Wrote:
Seems like you spent most of your time in Itaim / Jardins / Vila Olimpia area; those are not middle class girls. Spend some time in Republica, Perdizes, Barra Funda, or Tatuape and your opinion will quickly change. Middle class Paulistanas are ugly on average. You rode the metro right? I'd say at most 1 in 25 (4%) on any given day are bangable.
Any city as big as Sampa is going to have quite a few ugly/average looking chicks...even if I rode the NYC Subway, there would be days where 1/20 girls might be bangable....but you make a good point.
Walking around the grittier areas of town of Sampa like Centro, etc...I would say that I saw a higher frequency of hotties than in Rio de Janeiro. In Rio, one has to walk to a certain "beach post" in Ipanema to see the hotties...but the typical gal walking around Zona Sul even in Leblon/Ipanema was very average except for the occasional hot chick with a huge ass rock on the 4th finger-left hand...compared to Jardins/Jardim Paulista/Vila Madalena/Itaim/Brooklin/Vila Olimpia/Avenida Paulista...would say I saw a higher frequency of hotties yet again.
Quote: (06-10-2014 08:13 PM)champ Wrote:
Quote: (06-02-2014 12:19 AM)Brosemite Wrote:
Linha Esmeralda (Emerald Line) - The newest metro line in São Paulo. It's definitely worth checking out at night as you'll get some breathtaking views of the river separating Morumbi to the east and then the Itaim Bibi/Vila Olimpia/Brooklin areas to the west. Sorry if you think I get a kick out of the little things like this..., but it's quite cool.
I can only assume that "breathtaking" refers to the smell from the open sewer known as Rio Pinheiros.
Didn't have a chance to smell the river lol. What a cool sight that part of town though was...especially at nights.
Quote: (06-10-2014 08:13 PM)champ Wrote:
Sao Paulo is a beast of a city, but one I've grown quite fond of. Everything that Brazilians complain about it is true; it's smelly, ugly, congested, and somewhat dangerous. I chalk that all up to character and appreciate it for what it does have as it's the only true international city in Brazil, with great entrepreneurial, cultural, culinary, and creative scenes. It's not an easy place to live, but if you can scratch out a decent living for yourself it comes with a great sense of accomplishment (like the old saying of NY: "If I can make it here I can make it anywhere").
Agreed as Sampa has plenty of character. I left Sampa missing the grind, challenge, atmosphere, and unique character despite some frustrating moments.
I've left certain cities saying "oh well..missed out..that's life..it happens" while gaining a good grasp of those environments. I left Sao Paulo however wanting to understand it more not to mention just yearning to linger around aimlessly for another week.
Quote: (06-10-2014 08:13 PM)champ Wrote:
Sounds like you've made some inroads. I'd give it a second chance when you have at least a week to spend, focus on social circle game, and hang out in places with less pretense and less gringo fatigue (Vila Madelena and Consolação).
If I focused only on social scene, daygame, and more frequent mall/cafe visits walking around streets without overdoing things at clubs...could've gotten farther with the females & enjoyed the experience more. If you looked at post 3/3 for Sao Paulo, just relaxing in Jardins/Itaim while casually walking around both of those areas possibly daygaming was a privilege I didn't take advantage of; instead I was too focused on a "specific agenda" running around town, which I don't regret (least I got that out of the way).
I will say it's a tough place to make guy friends even if I put more time in that. Whereas investing time & energy in guy friends around Belo Horizonte would be more rewarding (not to mention an easier process too), it's not something I feel would be worth setting aside time to do in Sao Paulo....girls all the way haha.
My ego/emotions tell me to visit Sampa right away for another week stay letting others know I'm there "for work." Realistically...it's going to be some time before I take another crack at it as I have other priorities even when moving to Brazil end of year...but the sooner the better idealistically.
Campos do Jordao (Mid-July 2015) and Campinas are also in my radar for the state itself.