Quote: (06-06-2014 07:15 AM)William Windsor Wrote:
Quote: (06-06-2014 12:15 AM)Akula Wrote:
but Jimukr's horror stories about Odessa girls scares me...I just want to meet a nice hot sexy old fashioned Ukrainian 8!))
Not sure to what you are referring to, but I get the sense you can find all kinds of Ukrainian girls in Odessa. Compared to other places in Ukraine, there is perhaps a bit more sleaze here, but that's typical of any touristic place.
Its Ujkraines tijuana
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The thing with Odessa is foreign status really means less than most places in Ukraine including probably Moscow, plus you are competing with all the tourists and local guys.
But in some ways it might be better today than back in the day due to more who speak English. Back a decade ago it really couldn't compare to Kiev. Kiev had the highest amount of English speakers plus girls came from all over. Odessa the population actually has been shrinking.
@Roosh....actually your own words if I recall was that the clubs were full of snobs. Same word I used
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Another point that you mentioned that surprised me is that you said Arcadia wasn't happening 7 days a week when you were there. That actually surprised me because years ago Arcadia was jumping about every day of the week. Sunday night even was even crowded. That makes me suspect either:
a. people have less money
b. people have been going somewhere else.
I guess it can be compared to the famous elitist St. P girls, except in St. P the elite girls are engaged in high culture and in Odessa it is clubs. But if one day games I suspect it beats out most Ukrainian cities except Kiev.
Also realize that I was gaming without game and using mostly "LOOK" game. So since Kiev girls used to pinch my behind in clubs and women use to literally throw themselves at me, even in front of the girl who came my wife, I am a little biased lol. Kiev and many provinces I did nothing but walk the street, no effort required. While I had to actually 'gulp' initiate and use effort in South UA. For someone who isn't willing to game obviously I am going to pick the city where the girls don't act like I need to win them and it takes as little effort as possible.
Also be aware that I basing my opinion as someone who has spent every season there. Summer is great and fun, but I and most of my expat friends felt that once the summer is over the attitude is pretty negative and it gets boring.Kiev, St. P, Warsaw, Moscow are year long cities.
Nothing beats Kreschatik! But I suspect if I was gaming Moscow main street I would change my mind. Something special about cruising a big street and meeting girls from all over the country who came to the big city in search of dreams( actresses, models, porn stars, etc)
@ what pechorin said :"Dnipropetrovsk is definitely the most enjoyable city in Ukraine by the way."
I actually concur! I had a friend that came from Dnipro bragging how all the girls looked like models, etc and that they were the most "made up".
I then went there for a small trip and I was amazed. The main street stretches forever and has two sides that are out of view from each other because of the center trams so one can basically day game 24 hours there with new women walking up and down continuously.
However I found the night life lacking there at the time. Top club was Labyrinth and it was pretty empty. But I found out that people cruise that big park of the main street. So a cheap way to game I guess.