Quote: (03-21-2014 09:11 AM)Ice Wrote:
Quote: (03-20-2014 08:22 PM)Seaver Wrote:
Quote: (03-20-2014 04:09 PM)Ice Wrote:
Quote: (03-20-2014 02:12 AM)tbone46 Wrote:
If you have a great business idea then go ahead, start a business, be the next mark zuckerberg, and you can spend all day bossing people around and being "alpha". But if not you generally have to pay your dues to learn a business from someone else. I currently have a job that is performance based, gives me location independence, and is very lucrative...but for the first 5-7 years of my career i was literally a bitch at work. But i was a bitch to very talented people, made decent money, and the experience was invaluable. If you are so obsessed with being "alpha" that you can never recognize someone else that is talented that you can learn from then you are cutting off most of the avenues in life to make money. Capitalism thrives on personal exchanges like this...ie i will add value for someone else at somewhat modest pay and in return get the chance to learn from them and make more money down the road. There is nothing "beta" about making mutually beneficial exchanges or respecting other people who are worthy of respect...and this whole obsession with the term alpha and beta is quite frankly absurd.
Yeah I'm in the process of starting a business. But Probably I will need to get a job first though in order to be able to get it off the ground for money reasons. Been working independently on and off for the last years. But I am just realising hat I have to change my offerings. So I am working on updating my skills.
I don't have a problem learning from other people. I know some people who are very accomplished and I definitely give them respect. It's mostly when you work with bimbos and losers when the problems start. Unfortunately I was such a situation in the past.
You know how it is, most people are depressed and insecure and feel stuck in their life - working with these people is toxic. Those are exactly the people who will try to cut you down and sabotage you. People who are talented and accomplished are rarely the problem.
But yeah, good for you that you have a job that is very lucrative and gives you location independence.
Have you considered that a true alpha would be a leader and help these people turn that around? Then you create disciples.
Sounds to me like maybe you have a higher opinion of yourself than the reality. I don't mean that as an insult either, just that people tend to be a bit egocentric and not realize it.
Well maybe I am egocentric - I don' know - but probably not more than most people. I don't even have that high of an option of myself though, I just take action to change things in my life that I am not happy with.
You know how it is, most people complain and complain, but won't take action. You can try to help them, but at the end of the day, in order to succeed, one has to have the will and initiative to change out of one's own volition.
correct, and a true alpha can motivate those people to do that.
That is a big part of success in the corporate world, so if you can't succeed there, you most likely aren't alpha.
I would say that not only can an alpha succeed in the corporate world, they are more likely to do so.