Roosh mentioned something very important in his "7 Things You Can Do To Improve Your Game Right Now" blog post:
I agree that this an astoundingly powerful and fun move when conversing with a girl yet I'm still trying to figure out the most consistent, playful and natural way in which I can effectively pull this off.
I experience mixed results when I do this. While I was able to translate the mysterious-guy-frame into a succesful bar hookup a few weeks ago, I sometimes get feeling that I'm exaggerating this technique with other girls so that they might have the feeling I'm notoriously vague, over-the-top ironic and dishonest.
For instance, in December I had this situation:
I'm at a house party, many couples around, few attractive single girls. I get approached by a fairly average, but bangable (if need be) chick in the kitchen. After exchanging names roughly the following conversation ensues.
Her: So, what do you study?
Me: Well, that's a very personal question. What do you think I study?
Her: I don't know.
Me: Shall I give you a hint?
Her: Sure.
Me: It has something to do with people.
Her: That could be anything. Psychology major?
Me: Psychology? What makes you think I'd engage in such a manipulative pseudo-science?
Her: Blabla [We talked about university, common acquaintances, etc. while I kept the frame and only said obviously ironic bullshit stuff like "Don't think I'm disillusioned about life. In fact, I'm a naive idealist."]
Then:
Me: So, how about a smoke and drink on the balcony?
Her [suddenly with a very confused and earnest facial expression]: Is this the first time you say something serious?
She walked off and I wasn't too impressed by that because it was only a half-hearted conversation on my side and I was simultaneously looking out for more attractive girls, in vain.
Still, it made me think about how far can you go with the don't-give-direct-answers-style. Is there a decent indirect/playful/bullshit vs. honest/direct answer ratio to her questions (70/30, 80/20, ...)? If she is already attracted to you, should you always keep that frame anyway or loose up and give her the answers she wants to hear? Do you think it's a good technique to figure out if the girl is stuffy or fun to hang out with?
Opinions, please.
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7. Stop Giving Direct Answers
Evade her questions with humor or counter with your own questions instead, withholding for as long as reasonably possible your answers. Not only does this show you aren’t trying to impress her, but it also makes her think you are hiding something. This shady vibe will keep the conversation going and make her curious about what is hiding behind the curtain. You immediately stand out because most men try to appease a girl by immediately answering questions in the hopes she’ll like him. By doing the opposite, she sticks around to figure out who the hell you are (or think you are), but by then it will be too late—your fish hook is in her and you can run deeper game with her full attention.
I agree that this an astoundingly powerful and fun move when conversing with a girl yet I'm still trying to figure out the most consistent, playful and natural way in which I can effectively pull this off.
I experience mixed results when I do this. While I was able to translate the mysterious-guy-frame into a succesful bar hookup a few weeks ago, I sometimes get feeling that I'm exaggerating this technique with other girls so that they might have the feeling I'm notoriously vague, over-the-top ironic and dishonest.
For instance, in December I had this situation:
I'm at a house party, many couples around, few attractive single girls. I get approached by a fairly average, but bangable (if need be) chick in the kitchen. After exchanging names roughly the following conversation ensues.
Her: So, what do you study?
Me: Well, that's a very personal question. What do you think I study?
Her: I don't know.
Me: Shall I give you a hint?
Her: Sure.
Me: It has something to do with people.
Her: That could be anything. Psychology major?
Me: Psychology? What makes you think I'd engage in such a manipulative pseudo-science?
Her: Blabla [We talked about university, common acquaintances, etc. while I kept the frame and only said obviously ironic bullshit stuff like "Don't think I'm disillusioned about life. In fact, I'm a naive idealist."]
Then:
Me: So, how about a smoke and drink on the balcony?
Her [suddenly with a very confused and earnest facial expression]: Is this the first time you say something serious?
She walked off and I wasn't too impressed by that because it was only a half-hearted conversation on my side and I was simultaneously looking out for more attractive girls, in vain.
Still, it made me think about how far can you go with the don't-give-direct-answers-style. Is there a decent indirect/playful/bullshit vs. honest/direct answer ratio to her questions (70/30, 80/20, ...)? If she is already attracted to you, should you always keep that frame anyway or loose up and give her the answers she wants to hear? Do you think it's a good technique to figure out if the girl is stuffy or fun to hang out with?
Opinions, please.