Quote: (01-03-2014 04:50 PM)thedude3737 Wrote:
Maybe as a matter of principal. You could say the same thing about drug policy.
Government policy only goes so far. The will of the individual human is greater than any government entity.
You can imprison half your population; people are still going to smoke weed. And what's happened in recent years? More and more legislation de-criminalizing marijuana.
I don't see that it was made easier because it wasn't controllable (which is wasn't just like prohibition), I see it as people rallying to get laws changed like it should have been. They used the system in place as it was designed.
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In regards to immigration, there should be less attention placed on illegal immigrants and more attention placed on employers. There's got to be a better way to sponsor an employee for citizenship or an extended work visa as the current process is too costly and bureaucratic.
Yeah, I don't understand how these businesses don't worry too much about getting busted. It sounds like the repercussions are pretty low.
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This is the scale we're working with. These are not retail jobs where you stand around in slacks and sneakers. This is old fashioned manual labor. The jobs are so shitty that you can barely find legal immigrants to take them, you have to go with illegal. It takes some hardworking grunt from the deserts of northern Mexico, a gang infested town in Central America, some skin-and-bones kid fresh off the boat from Haiti, or a guy living in a 3rd world cinder block in the Philippines to want to work as a dishwasher.
That is really the only reason the illegal problem hasn't been fixed.
Like I said earlier, these are mainly jobs most people won't take at the wage asked. Most people don't want to pay more for services or products so in that way they have already said they were for illegal immigration. If the pay if good enough, you will find Americans who will do the job. Look at what people put up with in the oil fields. There is always a price. Those higher prices will be passed on to consumers and they won't like that so we get illegals in to keep costs down.
Exporting dollars back home will matter if there is a large enough amount not being recirculated within our economy. I do know that one of Philippines major imports is foreign money from all of the overseas workers.
It is a major contributor to that economy.
I don't think it is a big deal here, though, or at least I haven't read anything to give me any indication it was a problem.
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Instead of having a closed door policy, it would be wiser to regulate it in a sustainable fashion.
We do have it regulated. It isn't like we don't have legal immigrants that go through the process.
Allowing illegals to have driver licenses and to get student loans is bypassing those regulations.
Access to programs paid by tax payers is bypassing those regulations.
Allowing them to work is bypassing those regulations.
By opening the door more, I suspect you will still have a worker shortage for low wage jobs. Who in their right mind would work a low paying job while they could be making roughly 36k in welfare benefits? I don't think we can afford more people on welfare.