@ Slim Shady, I'm not extremely convinced of Mumbai being more chill. Rape probably happens a lot in Mumbai as well, it's just not easy to come forward with it. The reason why the northern shit holes get so much press is because they go far beyond rape (trying to kill the girl, etc.)
Actually in case anyone's interested. I was googling for Mumbai rape 2013, ran into this:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/27/world/....html?_r=0
Clear stigma, women are terrified of reporting getting raped in India out of fear of becoming a social outcast in their community.
My first instinct? Princess complex - girl works at English-language publication as a photographer
As you can imagine, these men aren't the upper class type...
Extremey poor and horny...recipe for rape right there.
Yep, princess complex. Although I'll be honest, in a real fucked up way, the fact that we're seeing princess girls getting raped might help reduce rape rates in India. There have been some really brave lower class girls speaking, but I think seeing upper class girls getting raped has probably made the people in politics, media (upper and middle class) take attention. In a fucked up way, this trend of really poor people raping the wrong girls (i.e. those that won't get killed by their own dads) combined with social media might actually reduce rape across the board.
Translated as "Every woman except mom/sister/wife is a potential slut. The fact she's with an unrelated guy confirms she is a slut."
I swear to you guys, I did not know this article existed when I wrote the post above about my hypotheses on why India has a rape culture, but damn this article is confirming everything.
In abject poverty, even the mom will say that girls in skimpy girls are effectively sluts. And the question I stated above comes up here as well: "Why did the girl get raped and what did she do to get raped?". The mom aptly answers: the girl effectively seduced her son. And to emphasize, the guy's family is heavily on his side as he's probably the only breadwinner in the family.
That argument I made above about these type of cases actually getting important people's attention...just kidding. It's really not funny so pardon me for this: but fucking LOL. This lawyer (well-known, rich, etc.) is in complete denial, just like the journalist in Roosh's clip: they genuinely think these are odd cases and not representative of India. Just reinforcing what several people on this thread have said about the Indian elite.
Sigh...the Indian elite, only upper class people in the world that think they're middle class and representative of their nation.
Actually in case anyone's interested. I was googling for Mumbai rape 2013, ran into this:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/27/world/....html?_r=0
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Two hours later, a 22-year-old photojournalist limped out of a ruined building. She had been raped repeatedly by five men, asked by one to re-enact pornographic acts displayed on a cellphone. After she left, the men dispersed to their wives or mothers, if they had them; it was dinnertime. None of their previous victims had gone to the police. Why should this one?
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But the Mumbai case provides an unusual glimpse into a group of bored young men who had committed the same crime often enough to develop a routine. The police say the men had committed at least five rapes in the same spot. Their casual confidence reinforces the notion that rape has been a largely invisible crime here, where convictions are infrequent and victims silently go away. Not until their arrest, at a moment when sexual violence has grabbed headlines and risen to the top of the state’s agenda, did the seriousness of the crime sink in.
Clear stigma, women are terrified of reporting getting raped in India out of fear of becoming a social outcast in their community.
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The photographer and her colleague, a 21-year-old man, were interns at an English-language publication and had decided to include this spot — the backdrop for any number of fashion shoots — as part of a photo essay on the city’s abandoned buildings, the editor said. On that Thursday last August, they reached the ruined mill about an hour before sunset.
My first instinct? Princess complex - girl works at English-language publication as a photographer
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The five men they encountered there later came from slums near the mill complex, claustrophobic concrete warrens where electrical wires tangle at one’s head and acrid water flows in open gutters around one’s feet.
None of the men worked regularly. There were jobs chicken-plucking at a neighborhood stand — a hot, stinking eight-hour shift that paid 250 rupees, or $4.
As you can imagine, these men aren't the upper class type...
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“It’s just frivolous; they just do it casually,” she said. “There is so much abject poverty. They just want to have a little fun on the side. That’s it. See, they have nothing to lose.”
Extremey poor and horny...recipe for rape right there.
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At last they brought her out, weeping, and told the two to leave along the railroad tracks. Before releasing her, they threatened to upload video of the attack onto the Internet if she reported the crime, a strategy that had worked with previous victims.
But this one did not hesitate. The two caught a cab to the nearest hospital. There they reported the crime, and the woman’s mother arrived. “I went inside. I saw her there crying,” her mother told the police later. “She told me in English, ‘Mummy, I’m vanished.’ ”
Yep, princess complex. Although I'll be honest, in a real fucked up way, the fact that we're seeing princess girls getting raped might help reduce rape rates in India. There have been some really brave lower class girls speaking, but I think seeing upper class girls getting raped has probably made the people in politics, media (upper and middle class) take attention. In a fucked up way, this trend of really poor people raping the wrong girls (i.e. those that won't get killed by their own dads) combined with social media might actually reduce rape across the board.
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“I asked Kasim, ‘Son, why did you do this to her? If it happened to your sister, would you come here and tell me or would you beat him?’ ” said his mother, Chandbibi Sheikh. He told her that his friends had come upon the couple embracing in the mill, and “they thought: ‘What is she doing with this boy here? She must be loose.’ ”
Translated as "Every woman except mom/sister/wife is a potential slut. The fact she's with an unrelated guy confirms she is a slut."
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She related this exchange from the family’s home, a sort of shelf wedged between a gas station and a garbage dump; as she spoke, a rat the size of a kitten clambered over containers stacked in a corner. She said far too much onus was being put on the men.
“Obviously, the fault is the girl’s,” she said. “Why did she have to go to that jungle? It’s her fault, too. Also, she was wearing skimpy clothes.”
She did not deny that he had done it. “He must have,” she said. “He told me that they tied up the boy who was doing bad things to her and said, ‘Madam, let us also do it.’ The madam said, ‘Don’t do it to me, take my mobile, take my camera, but don’t do it to me.’ Her body was uncovered. How could he control himself? And so it happened.”
I swear to you guys, I did not know this article existed when I wrote the post above about my hypotheses on why India has a rape culture, but damn this article is confirming everything.
In abject poverty, even the mom will say that girls in skimpy girls are effectively sluts. And the question I stated above comes up here as well: "Why did the girl get raped and what did she do to get raped?". The mom aptly answers: the girl effectively seduced her son. And to emphasize, the guy's family is heavily on his side as he's probably the only breadwinner in the family.
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Much news coverage over the next days zeroed in on the defendants’ poverty, but Mr. Roy shrugged off that line of inquiry. After interrogating the five accused men personally, he said they were “social outcasts,” not indicative of any deeper tensions in the city.
“They were deviants, sociopaths, predators,” he said in an interview. “If there was a larger socioeconomic framework, these crimes would be happening again and again. It was only these guys. I’m 100 percent sure that this kind of crime doesn’t happen in Mumbai. I’ve been here all my life and have been born and brought up here.”
That argument I made above about these type of cases actually getting important people's attention...just kidding. It's really not funny so pardon me for this: but fucking LOL. This lawyer (well-known, rich, etc.) is in complete denial, just like the journalist in Roosh's clip: they genuinely think these are odd cases and not representative of India. Just reinforcing what several people on this thread have said about the Indian elite.
Sigh...the Indian elite, only upper class people in the world that think they're middle class and representative of their nation.