Quote: (10-26-2013 04:36 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:
Quote: (10-26-2013 04:32 PM)Starke Wrote:
Quote: (10-26-2013 04:24 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:
The American poor live much better than the poor any where else and they live better than a good % of the entire world. They get housing, food, healthcare, phones, etc. etc.
Socialism = feminism and I want none of that in my life.
If you spent even a few days in Western Europe, you'd realise that this is entirely false.
In Scandinavia, the lower-class have access to all levels of education - from primary to tertiary - for free.
If they get sick, they have access to first-class healthcare, free at the point of purchase.
A lower-class American who applies themself can go to a 2nd or 3rd-tier university - assuming they don't win the scholarship lottery. Most will struggle to finish high school.
They may 'get phones', but their lives are devoid of opportunity.
Socialism = feminism?
Why is it that the nations touted on this very forum as being the least feminist, are those which lived under socialism the longest?
And why is it that nations exposed to Western capitalism tend to soon adopt feminism?
The poor in the USA have access to education as well. If they get scholarships they can attend some of the best universities in the entire world.
They get healthcare as well. All sorts of clinics for the poor. And you don't have the top level of healthcare there that we do here. Your "first class" isn't our first class. Our poor don't get to use it but even your middle class doesn't either.
Because the countries touted here are poor and this has kept feminism at bay. I'll give you credit, western Europe women are probably better than USA women over all. But I would take our economic system in a heartbeat because I have the choices to get ahead in life and retire early and live the good life.
'If' being the crucial word. With scholarships, the American system gives the poor a lottery ticket, which is rigged in favour of ethnic minorities.
The Scandinavian system gives the poor a legal right to all levels of education.
I know which I'd prefer to have...
If your healthcare was the greatest in the world, as you say, you wouldn't have 3rd-world levels of infant mortality and deaths from preventable illness.
But it's clear you haven't studied the system you are critiquing.
As I have no urge to repeat the stats I've already provided in this thread, I say good luck, I hope you beat the odds and manage to become socially mobile under the American system.