Quote: (03-14-2011 11:44 AM)ManAbout Wrote:
As for his living arrangement with his two "angels", super lame. Those girls are two nobodies who are latching on to his fame and status. One of them is a cheap pornstar. Any guy on here with $1000 in his pocket and a cheap video camera could bang her. Where is the alpha in that?
On the other hand, there is Sean Penn. He is dating Scarlett Johannsen, 25 years younger, one of the most desired women in the world, a celebrity in her own right, just seperated from her husband who is younger and much better looking than Sean Penn. And instead of wasting his time consumed by his own addictions, he is using his celebrity to make the world a better place. That's alpha.
Charlie Sheen is nothing more than a 45 year old frat boy.
This is a little ridiculous. Calling those two girls nobodies is devaluing them based on literally nothing. They are just two girls that any guy here would fuck. Not much different than 99% of the fuckworthy women on the planet. They are young, fuckable and assumed to be disease free. What's the criteria? Are they that much beneath you? I highly doubt it. Any guy here who says as much is either a lying keyboard rockstar or is deluded. And I highly doubt that you could bang that specific pornstar with a $1000 cash offer. But still, spend $1000 on almost ANY girl (not famous) in the right way and only a lame ass guy couldn't bang her. Also, since when is dating famous women the criteria for Alpha? I would submit that if you feel the need to date famous women to project status, then that's a self esteem issue that specifically points to being very insecure in your status. That's why i think a hell of a lot of famous 'alpha' guys consistently date and marry non famous women.
Making the world a better place is not Alpha. Its not the antithesis of alpha either. Everyone's overly specific and meaningless criteria for 'alpha' is also out of control. Alpha is not what you want it to be based on how the world 'should' work in a righteous, warm, cuddly, and just universe. In fact, its most often the opposite of that. Being a dominant male (alpha) is based on sociobiological rules. Helping the unfortunate has never been part of that sociobiology.
And remember, Scarlett Johannsen is "one of the most desired women in the world" by non-famous people. She has incredible status to all non-actors and people who aren't in that A-list world. By dating Sean Penn, she is dating someone that is largely on her level in terms of status, except for age. That makes it not such a big 'alpha' accomplishment for Sean Penn to get her. When that status level is equal, she's just a girl just like any other. If you have access to her, and can hang in terms of charm, money, a passable social network (something that remotely touches her level), and not looking like a total troll on her arm, then I'm sure that its not that difficult to date her.
I don't disagree about Sheen being a 45 year old frat bot. But 'Frat Boy' seems to describe loosely 70% of Hollywood men and 80% of men, in general, across all levels of status. Especially when they have money and a lot of free time. I don't think that there is much evidence to devalue him further, other than to say that he's a hypermanic drug addict. But that's not devaluation. That's a fact.