[zacb]

Hmmm, I see something similar, but I don't think it is really idealism. I see it more as "we ar epoor, and will always be poor, so forget about dreaming about idle things". To me, I see a tad bitof idealism when it comes to gay marriage, an dto a lesser extent with pot, but as far as having any social upheveal over and issue like the ag eof consent or over the warfare state, I don't see it. Maybe I am wrong, bu tI don'tquite see it here, in the states.