I think there is a conflation of living in a place vs. visiting a place and ease of getting notches given a certain duration of stay. Everyone agrees that living in TO is bad news. Roosh's results indicate that it is also *generally* a bad place to visit if pick up is your goal. G points out (and Quest etc.) if you visit during a certain portion of the year (summer, during a festival, etc.) and have something extra to bring to the table (Cali vibes, money, style) then you can do reasonably well. None of these things are inconsistent with each other. However, the overall conclusion is that TO is not a must-go destination even in North America, much less the world. In fact, it's probably best to avoid it.
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