Quote: (10-13-2012 05:34 PM)booshala Wrote:
I used to work in Korea back in 2003-2004 and it was my poosy paradise. As a Korean American born in Europe, it was as easy as dropping a few phrases in English and girls would be fascinated. I can remember many occasions when I was getting the cold shoulder from a girl at a bar/club, then said to my friends in English, "this bitch is not feeling me" and would immediately get them to do a complete 180 after hearing me literally insult them in English. It soon became a go-to move.
Just got back last week from Seoul, and as I go once or twice every year, I've noticed that competition is fucking fierce. Back in '04, native guys looked like trash: shitty fashion, bad hair, scrawny/doughy physiques. Now I go to the clubs and every motherfucker's got on brand name shit, hair coiffed impeccably, body from the gym, and they all wear 2 inch inserts in their shoes so they're all 6'+.
If anything, Korean guys have become way more alpha in the past decade, because the dating scene is ridiculously competitive. Just like guys with game in the US work out, educate themselves and are on top of their shit financially, Korean guys have to do this as well. I have tons of lee-spect for Roosh, but presenting a kpop boy band and seeing it as representative of the entire male populace is foolish. That'd be saying the US is doomed because of backstreet boys and N'sync. That shit sells records to young girls, long known for their inexhaustible supply of disposable income and rabid fandom.
To expand this further to all non korean RVF readers(the vast majority), Korea was never all that easy for foreigners and now it's even harder. This is a reflection of the growing political, social and economic power that the country wields today. Western culture used to be looked at as "all powerful" and extremely high value, but when you see Samsung products in every country going head to head with apple and your songs being played on fucking KIIS FM in Los Angeles, you're going to start to believe that your country is starting on a level playing field with the West.
You're always going to find a subset of native girls that are into white, black, middle eastern, Latino, etc guys in Korea, but if you want the top 10%ers that are on the level of what you see in the kpop videos, you need to:
A) Have a damn good social circle of high status Korean friends (finance, law, politics, maybe academia)
B) be good looking. No homo (as always) but most of the guys I saw at octagon club last week were at least 7's and above.
C) be able to spit some Korean (even if its simple shit) and at least lie and say that you're a long term expat.
D) be rich as fuck. Materialism is still quite rampant in South Korea although its nowhere near the shit I've witnessed in china.
Probably don't need all four if you excel in some of the others, but I have two well connected white American buddies pulling in banker money who keep themselves in shape and they have a hard time pulling 8's and above in Seoul. If Korean guys were as doomed as Roosh claimed, this wouldn't be the case.
You should drop a data sheet on Seoul, South Korea in the Travel section.
There ain't much reliable info on South Korea.