This is a good thread, I agree with a lot of what's being said, I think Giovonny made a good point about genetics and your "natural frame" having a big impact on your size. I think I'm about the same height as Virgil Kent, but I don't know if I'll ever be as ripped as him.
Big Nilla is a beast, almost looks like Brock Lesnar, a guy like that is genetics or steroids to get that big, no discrediting any blood, sweat, and tears the guys put in.
My main issue is that certain muscle groups get big, while others lag majorly behind. My chest, back, and especially traps get huge, while my biceps, triceps, shoulders, and calves stay small, even though I can lift a lot of weight.
But, what is most annoying is the way my body type is, pretty much all the fat I have goes to my gut. I'm currently 182 pounds at 5 ft 10.5 in., I look pretty strong, but I don't have a completely flat stomache which concerns me when I'm wearing tight fitting v-necks.
I'm currently trying to "bulk" up so I know I'm going to have to sacrifice a little bit, with having a little gut, my ultimate goal is to be a lean, but ripped, and big 185 lbs. I've never had a six pack in my life and I'm convinced with my genetics It would be virtually impossible to achieve unless I want to become a cardio rat and not lift heavy, which I'll never do.
I love eating, but I'm having a hard time hitting my target on protein every day. It definitely gets expensive, but serious body builders are supposed to get a gram of protein for their target body weight, 185 grams of protein a day is a shit ton. Personally, I can't really get myself to drink more than one protein drink a day, if I'd have to guess I'd say I get around 120 grams of protein a day, so I'm typically eating a bunch of chicken, steak, fish, eggs, and drinking milk.
I'm surprised Roosh was 170 lbs at 6 ft. 2 in., that seems pretty damn thin to me, I'm sure he's super lean and cut, has no gut at all, so it's a look he can pull off, however I think at that height I'd want to be at least 180-190 with some size in the chest, shoulders, back, traps.
I'm also shocked that Roosh is able to live off $7 a day, industrial shithole must be cheap as fuck, and Roosh must be thrifty as fuck. Granted I eat out almost every meal and try to only hit restaurants/grocery stores that serve mostly local, natural, organic food, I'm probably averaging $35 a day on food. If I didn't eat so much and high protein, I could easily drop this, although I'm not factoring in protein shakes or snacks in that number.
I do agree that supplements make a big difference, I'm just now starting to understand. I am also one to keep things natural so all I take are multi-vitamin, fish oil, and magnesium oil. It seems from the chat around my gym, that most guys that are huge are on some form of supplement or another.
Big Nilla is a beast, almost looks like Brock Lesnar, a guy like that is genetics or steroids to get that big, no discrediting any blood, sweat, and tears the guys put in.
My main issue is that certain muscle groups get big, while others lag majorly behind. My chest, back, and especially traps get huge, while my biceps, triceps, shoulders, and calves stay small, even though I can lift a lot of weight.
But, what is most annoying is the way my body type is, pretty much all the fat I have goes to my gut. I'm currently 182 pounds at 5 ft 10.5 in., I look pretty strong, but I don't have a completely flat stomache which concerns me when I'm wearing tight fitting v-necks.
I'm currently trying to "bulk" up so I know I'm going to have to sacrifice a little bit, with having a little gut, my ultimate goal is to be a lean, but ripped, and big 185 lbs. I've never had a six pack in my life and I'm convinced with my genetics It would be virtually impossible to achieve unless I want to become a cardio rat and not lift heavy, which I'll never do.
I love eating, but I'm having a hard time hitting my target on protein every day. It definitely gets expensive, but serious body builders are supposed to get a gram of protein for their target body weight, 185 grams of protein a day is a shit ton. Personally, I can't really get myself to drink more than one protein drink a day, if I'd have to guess I'd say I get around 120 grams of protein a day, so I'm typically eating a bunch of chicken, steak, fish, eggs, and drinking milk.
I'm surprised Roosh was 170 lbs at 6 ft. 2 in., that seems pretty damn thin to me, I'm sure he's super lean and cut, has no gut at all, so it's a look he can pull off, however I think at that height I'd want to be at least 180-190 with some size in the chest, shoulders, back, traps.
I'm also shocked that Roosh is able to live off $7 a day, industrial shithole must be cheap as fuck, and Roosh must be thrifty as fuck. Granted I eat out almost every meal and try to only hit restaurants/grocery stores that serve mostly local, natural, organic food, I'm probably averaging $35 a day on food. If I didn't eat so much and high protein, I could easily drop this, although I'm not factoring in protein shakes or snacks in that number.
I do agree that supplements make a big difference, I'm just now starting to understand. I am also one to keep things natural so all I take are multi-vitamin, fish oil, and magnesium oil. It seems from the chat around my gym, that most guys that are huge are on some form of supplement or another.