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Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving?
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Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving?

(01-20-2023, 11:26 AM)roberto Wrote:  ^ I read all of that, and I'm still not sure what the fuck you are trying to say.

This is due to the fact that it is very complex, advanced-level shit that is only accessible to the most knowledgeable and intelligent minds. You appear to be a decent individual, but as much as you'd like forums like this remain unchanged, it's not going to happen. As dude pointed out, eventually they come around to the reasons why things are the way they are and in the absence of an intellectual alpha like myself, this would lead to the emergence of political ideologies and finally a "black pill" by mentally ill mutants.

It's all basic evolutionary biology. 30 years ago the the so-called “seduction” industry develops, an enterprise to sell seminars and media promising to teach men how to seduce or pick up women, leading to these men being called pick-up artists (PUAs).  The first PUA forum, alt.seduction.fast, founded in 1994, facilitated the industry’s expansion to a community subculture. Among the new forums emerging in the 1990s was Alana’s Involuntary Celibacy Project, where the term incel was coined. Founded by a bisexual woman in Toronto, the forum aimed to support people who wanted but lacked romantic relationships. While this forum was not created with a misogynistic ideology in mind, the pickup artist and incel communities shared members who were disappointed with their sexual experience. 

In the mid-2000s, game methods and PUA culture gained prominence in popular culture due to the best-selling 2005 book The Game by journalist Neil Strauss, who immersed himself in PUA culture, and the VH1 reality show The Pick-Up Artist, which premiered in 2007. Also at this time, the so-called Manosphere formed, spearheaded by the three retards Rollo, Roissy, and Roosh. They further expanded on the concept of the sexual Marketplace. According to this framework, every person has a “sexual market value” (SMV) informed by characteristics including, but not limited to: physical looks, fitness, age, wealth, and social class. This leads, they assert, to a distribution of women following the 80/20 rule: 80 percent of women pursue the top 20 percent of men, leaving the bottom 20 percent of women for the remaining 80 percent of men. Most of these ideas were built on a simplified version of evolutionary biology. PUAs suggest men improve their SMV by learning “game” (techniques to seduce women), earning more money, and/or improving their physical appearance through working out. These beliefs also feed red pill philosophy, which “awakens” men to the supposed reality of feminist control.

Beginning around 2016, incel forums like RVF were populated almost exclusively by autistic spectrum handicaps and began to shift from a Red Pill to an increasing “Black Pill” mentality that women choose sexual partners based solely on physical features (“lookism”), so whether or not a person will be an incel is predetermined.  The Black Pill philosophy typically offers only two options for what to do with their new accepted reality: accept their fate as an incel or try to change society to their benefit. Political ideas supported by incels range from concentration camps for women to mandating government-sponsored girlfriends and enforced monogamy to wiping out most of the existing “alpha” men and women. The Santa Barbara perpetrator had his own vision for an ideal society that his manifesto conveys. The specifics of a political agenda are not cohesively developed for the overall movement; however, they see themselves as an oppressed group that can only improve their situation through a total overthrow and restructuring of society. 

To summarize, promoting RVF content as a "beacon of light" is to promote a gateway drug to the Red and ultimately Black Pill. This eventually leads to damnation on Earth. This belief system embraces the Red Pill concept of a society ruled by women, but dismisses individual-level efforts with women, such as learning "games", as foolish, arguing that only societal change has the potential to be beneficial. Black Pill supporters believe that women chose sexual partners purely on the basis of physical characteristics ("lookism"); hence, it is predetermined whether or not a person will be an incel.
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Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Archivist - 10-31-2022, 03:40 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by citron - 11-01-2022, 10:02 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Archivist - 04-22-2023, 01:07 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Archivist - 05-11-2023, 01:53 AM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Archivist - 11-02-2022, 01:27 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Free-based Expat - 11-02-2022, 04:15 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by PAG - 11-06-2022, 10:44 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by roberto - 12-28-2022, 12:24 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by bigmac - 12-30-2022, 04:24 AM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by PAG - 12-30-2022, 05:28 AM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Sandstorm - 01-05-2023, 10:11 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by bigmac - 01-07-2023, 11:25 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by PAG - 01-08-2023, 08:15 AM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by CJ_W2 - 03-05-2024, 08:02 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by TtR - 01-13-2023, 11:09 AM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by citron - 01-15-2023, 07:26 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by PAG - 01-16-2023, 04:40 AM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by roberto - 01-16-2023, 11:22 AM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by PAG - 01-17-2023, 03:15 AM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by roberto - 01-17-2023, 11:09 AM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by PAG - 01-17-2023, 08:07 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by roberto - 01-18-2023, 11:31 AM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by TtR - 01-17-2023, 05:10 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Slickyboy_OG - 01-16-2023, 11:13 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by citron - 01-18-2023, 12:33 AM
RE: Black pill - by Slickyboy_OG - 01-17-2023, 02:51 PM
RE: Samseau - by Slickyboy_OG - 01-17-2023, 11:05 PM
RE: Samseau - by PAG - 01-18-2023, 02:14 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by PAG - 01-20-2023, 06:58 AM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by roberto - 01-20-2023, 11:26 AM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by PAG - 01-20-2023, 01:35 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by I.Feel.Ten.Feet.Tall.Right.Now! - 01-22-2023, 02:13 AM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by I.Feel.Ten.Feet.Tall.Right.Now! - 01-22-2023, 03:57 AM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Archivist - 02-28-2023, 03:49 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by tough_guy - 03-06-2023, 06:22 AM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by citron - 04-22-2023, 04:05 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Archivist - 04-22-2023, 11:43 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Rooshwasaloser - 04-28-2023, 02:17 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by citron - 04-28-2023, 04:50 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Rooshwasaloser - 04-29-2023, 03:11 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Rooshwasaloser - 04-28-2023, 05:55 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Archivist - 04-29-2023, 04:10 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Archivist - 04-29-2023, 09:24 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Rooshwasaloser - 04-30-2023, 02:08 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Archivist - 04-30-2023, 11:38 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Longhaul - 01-24-2024, 09:43 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Archivist - 01-26-2024, 12:17 AM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Longhaul - 01-28-2024, 12:06 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by whitemike - 01-29-2024, 09:04 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Archivist - 01-30-2024, 12:17 AM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by whitemike - 01-30-2024, 09:37 AM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Archivist - 01-30-2024, 01:57 AM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Longhaul - 01-30-2024, 08:54 AM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Artique - 04-29-2023, 10:27 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Artique - 04-30-2023, 02:17 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Rooshwasaloser - 04-30-2023, 04:05 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Artique - 04-30-2023, 04:23 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Rooshwasaloser - 05-08-2023, 01:26 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Artique - 05-07-2023, 11:57 AM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Artique - 05-08-2023, 01:28 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Rooshwasaloser - 05-08-2023, 02:57 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Artique - 05-08-2023, 03:23 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Rooshwasaloser - 05-08-2023, 03:48 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Artique - 05-08-2023, 03:57 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Rooshwasaloser - 05-08-2023, 04:27 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Ozzy - 05-10-2023, 03:38 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by citron - 05-13-2023, 04:04 AM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Artique - 05-10-2023, 03:58 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Ozzy - 05-10-2023, 04:12 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Rooshwasaloser - 05-11-2023, 05:17 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Archivist - 05-12-2023, 12:04 AM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Artique - 05-10-2023, 08:29 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Artique - 05-11-2023, 05:51 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Rooshwasaloser - 05-12-2023, 05:37 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Artique - 05-12-2023, 05:50 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Archivist - 05-12-2023, 09:02 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Rooshwasaloser - 05-29-2023, 06:25 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Artique - 05-12-2023, 09:39 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Artique - 05-13-2023, 11:51 AM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Artique - 05-30-2023, 06:05 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Ozzy - 05-30-2023, 06:43 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Rooshwasaloser - 05-31-2023, 01:17 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Artique - 05-31-2023, 02:34 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Rooshwasaloser - 05-31-2023, 03:04 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Ozzy - 05-31-2023, 06:35 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Artique - 05-31-2023, 08:17 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Rooshwasaloser - 06-01-2023, 01:04 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by BadwolfLives - 06-03-2023, 05:35 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by nampa - 01-25-2024, 08:39 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Artique - 01-28-2024, 12:21 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by nampa - 01-28-2024, 10:12 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Artique - 01-30-2024, 10:31 AM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by whitemike - 01-30-2024, 04:16 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Artique - 01-30-2024, 05:42 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by whitemike - 01-30-2024, 06:17 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Dmoney - 02-14-2024, 05:56 PM
RE: Is the RVF Manosphere Worth Saving? - by Archivist - 02-15-2024, 03:07 AM

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