I think it was Mike Cernovich (MikeCF) who once described Heartiste as the "Aristotle of the Manosphere." Although I stumbled onto Heartiste after finding Roosh, I believe that it was Roissy/CH/Heartiste that greatly influenced Roosh back in the early to mid 00's when they ran together in the DC/Maryland area with other cats like Virgie Kent (Empires of Dust). They are technically Eskimo brothers since they banged the same Asian chick, too.
I'm surprised how many people here actually believe Roissy and Heartiste are different people. The official story goes something like this: A high IQ (excellent written prose) player making groundbreaking social observations about the Decline of the West and Nature of Woman breaks onto the scene (2007) but is doxxed by a flame named LadyRayn (2009-2010?) and hands his blog over to his protege Heartiste. Where did he find Heartiste? There are a lot of RVFers who understand the observations that Heartiste makes but don't have the writing skills you find on that blog.
What are the odds that the player you know from a local bar is also a talented writer? What are the odds that that talented, like-minded player (because there are also leftist players) has the time to post up to 3-4 times per day without running ads or taking donations on the blog (his PayPal donation button was disabled over a year ago)? Did he charge to turn over a blog that already had a following? Since the blog wasn't registered as a Top-Level Domain (TLD) like heartiste.com but instead was hosted via Wordpress.com, turning it over to another person probably just meant giving them the username and password. Whereas, if Roosh wanted to sell rooshv.com to someone for $1 million, he would mark the domain as "for sale" and run the transfer through the web host similar to an escrow service. So, we either have the username and password being e-mailed at no cost or written down on a napkin and swapped for cash-in-hand to the new Heartiste.
Alternatively, in a parallel and logical universe, we have Roissy deleting his old blog and creating Citizen Renegade before settling on Chateau Heartiste with the cover story that the original proprietor had left the building. A remade blog at a new URL with an ostensibly new host creates plausible deniability. This is not too dissimilar from the story of Satoshi Nakamoto and Bitcoin.
The content changes from the 2007-2010 era "here's a sweet oneliner" posts into the political posts for the same reason Roosh's posts have gone from "How to get your Scandinavian flag hat trick" to "We are fighting pure evil." People change. Their interests change or they run out of things to say about a given topic. Go read Heartiste's early work and his Commandments of Poon and then come back here and tell me what he missed. Almost nothing.
Also consider that Roissy is likely a few years older than Roosh. Is a man that helped shape the Manosphere at age 33 (ish) with a blog before social media and Tinder still using his verbal routines to pickup chicks at college bars at age 45? Does he even care? Did he start a family and move into political posts to help reshape the environment around him into something less toxic?
Most of the people who don't like the new Heartiste are upset with being classified as "part of the problem." He created a page called "Diversity + Proximity = War" with a reference list of scientific studies showing that multicultural, multiracial societies who pray to different God(s) end up collapsing. The Japanese build excellent cars without worrying about how many Blacks or Native Americans are working on the assembly lines. As the United States becomes more diverse, it is slowly locking up like an engine without oil because NOTHING can be done without wondering about how many Blacks and/or Mexicans and/or Native Americans are put into positions of power for no other reason than to stick it to Whitey. Of course there are qualified employees coming from every single race who would thrive in a meritocracy. That percentage, however, is noticeably smaller than the percentage of capable Heritage Americans (Trademark Heartiste) so a meritocracy it cannot be. That used to be a taboo topic on this forum just a few years ago as well. Some people left this forum once that floodgate was opened and people started posting their opinions freely about Mass Migration, Black Lives Matter, Chinese/Mexican anchor babies or anything else related. These people want the cool, tall white guy who wing them to pick up sorority girls on K Street ... not the frat boy who recognizes that some communities leech off government welfare or form ethnocentric, disloyal communes on the West and East coasts.
It wouldn't be hard for Heartiste to reappear. I'm sure he has a .zip file of all of his work. I too saw his comments a few months if not a year or two ago indicating that he knew he was a target. Hell, there was even a leftist soyboy Wordpress employee publicly tweeting about his desire to deplatform Heartiste. Heartiste saw his tweets and embedded them into a post addressing censorship. That was right around the time of Trump's election so any smart individual who didn't download his docs at that time is perhaps not so smart after all. There are now web hosts who accept cryptocurrencies to both host and register domains. Some of them are even offshore in friendlier, patriarchal, low-diversity countries.
I agree with one of the previous posters. He has the means, he has the backup data, he knows how to use crypto and maintain his privacy. He's just probably not gonna do it.
I'm surprised how many people here actually believe Roissy and Heartiste are different people. The official story goes something like this: A high IQ (excellent written prose) player making groundbreaking social observations about the Decline of the West and Nature of Woman breaks onto the scene (2007) but is doxxed by a flame named LadyRayn (2009-2010?) and hands his blog over to his protege Heartiste. Where did he find Heartiste? There are a lot of RVFers who understand the observations that Heartiste makes but don't have the writing skills you find on that blog.
What are the odds that the player you know from a local bar is also a talented writer? What are the odds that that talented, like-minded player (because there are also leftist players) has the time to post up to 3-4 times per day without running ads or taking donations on the blog (his PayPal donation button was disabled over a year ago)? Did he charge to turn over a blog that already had a following? Since the blog wasn't registered as a Top-Level Domain (TLD) like heartiste.com but instead was hosted via Wordpress.com, turning it over to another person probably just meant giving them the username and password. Whereas, if Roosh wanted to sell rooshv.com to someone for $1 million, he would mark the domain as "for sale" and run the transfer through the web host similar to an escrow service. So, we either have the username and password being e-mailed at no cost or written down on a napkin and swapped for cash-in-hand to the new Heartiste.
Alternatively, in a parallel and logical universe, we have Roissy deleting his old blog and creating Citizen Renegade before settling on Chateau Heartiste with the cover story that the original proprietor had left the building. A remade blog at a new URL with an ostensibly new host creates plausible deniability. This is not too dissimilar from the story of Satoshi Nakamoto and Bitcoin.
The content changes from the 2007-2010 era "here's a sweet oneliner" posts into the political posts for the same reason Roosh's posts have gone from "How to get your Scandinavian flag hat trick" to "We are fighting pure evil." People change. Their interests change or they run out of things to say about a given topic. Go read Heartiste's early work and his Commandments of Poon and then come back here and tell me what he missed. Almost nothing.
Also consider that Roissy is likely a few years older than Roosh. Is a man that helped shape the Manosphere at age 33 (ish) with a blog before social media and Tinder still using his verbal routines to pickup chicks at college bars at age 45? Does he even care? Did he start a family and move into political posts to help reshape the environment around him into something less toxic?
Most of the people who don't like the new Heartiste are upset with being classified as "part of the problem." He created a page called "Diversity + Proximity = War" with a reference list of scientific studies showing that multicultural, multiracial societies who pray to different God(s) end up collapsing. The Japanese build excellent cars without worrying about how many Blacks or Native Americans are working on the assembly lines. As the United States becomes more diverse, it is slowly locking up like an engine without oil because NOTHING can be done without wondering about how many Blacks and/or Mexicans and/or Native Americans are put into positions of power for no other reason than to stick it to Whitey. Of course there are qualified employees coming from every single race who would thrive in a meritocracy. That percentage, however, is noticeably smaller than the percentage of capable Heritage Americans (Trademark Heartiste) so a meritocracy it cannot be. That used to be a taboo topic on this forum just a few years ago as well. Some people left this forum once that floodgate was opened and people started posting their opinions freely about Mass Migration, Black Lives Matter, Chinese/Mexican anchor babies or anything else related. These people want the cool, tall white guy who wing them to pick up sorority girls on K Street ... not the frat boy who recognizes that some communities leech off government welfare or form ethnocentric, disloyal communes on the West and East coasts.
It wouldn't be hard for Heartiste to reappear. I'm sure he has a .zip file of all of his work. I too saw his comments a few months if not a year or two ago indicating that he knew he was a target. Hell, there was even a leftist soyboy Wordpress employee publicly tweeting about his desire to deplatform Heartiste. Heartiste saw his tweets and embedded them into a post addressing censorship. That was right around the time of Trump's election so any smart individual who didn't download his docs at that time is perhaps not so smart after all. There are now web hosts who accept cryptocurrencies to both host and register domains. Some of them are even offshore in friendlier, patriarchal, low-diversity countries.
I agree with one of the previous posters. He has the means, he has the backup data, he knows how to use crypto and maintain his privacy. He's just probably not gonna do it.