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Quote: (05-09-2019 01:24 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:
Am I the only one who noticed the irony about age gaps here?
(a bunch of brilliant shit)
It is not even the age gap, it is the toxic mentality of life getting worse with age and the helpless attitude towards it as well as shoving young men into marriage in their 20s. They are literally trying to rob younger guys of the prime years, it's pathetic.
I thought I was the only one losing my head but apparently not, you just put it in a much better way than I could. I also tried to fight nature but the truth is, there are winners and losers in life. There are the Dan Bilzerians, Hugh Hefners (RIP), and true playboys who make it and then there are the rest of the guys who speak louder than anything about how miserable life is as you get older and how you have no options.
There's a sort of delusion going on in the manosphere about men's SMV peaking in late 30's and the ability to consistently pull younger girls throughout your entire male life.
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See there is phenomenon Graft, it's called being a quality guy in order to pull quality women. You make it seem as if all men over 30 are hopeless in this regard while guys in their teens and 20s have it so much easier with top tier women around their age group.
The reality of the situation is that you have to be damn good, regardless of age, to get the hot girls in their prime.
You're right, most older guys are not pulling these kinds of girls but you know who else is not pulling them? Most younger guys around their age, even the ones who go to school with them and sit in the same classes with them. Think that the average 21 year old guy is balls deep in hot girls around his age? More like 5% of 21 year old guys are and even that is a generous number.
I didn't say that all men over 30 were hopeless. I just said that myself and my friend who is well into his 30's are hooking up with barely legal hotties regularly. Both of us have learned a lot of game theory over the years but most of our success is due to factors that you can't learn on a game forum, primarily looks, lifestyle and finances.
Sometimes getting that prime woman is due to luck. It's a lot easier for a college student to be in the right place at the right time when he's surrounded by 60% women every day on campus or at a low wage job.
The women will be more forgiving of his lack of finances or game awareness because it's more socially acceptable to be dating a guy from XYZ frat than a game aware financially successful 35 year old.
The guys that I went to school with who ended up with the hottest girls cashed out during their last year of college when their status was high and wifed them up. Most of the other guys ended up with mid to late 20's girls barely above average. And these were guys that five years earlier were pulling young hotties all the time.
My dating history turned out different, but I'm the exception to the rule and very far from the norm.
Most older guys completely fail in their prospecting to younger women, by relying on cold approach instead of social media and social circle.
Once again we are arguing in circles.
You mention things like frat and cashing out on status, that is not in the control of most younger guys at all and hot girls still care about status, wealth, and those kinds of things with guys around their age.
As for women being forgiving of wealth with younger guys, that is still not true for the top tier women of that age group. The sorority girls in the best houses are almost always going for either athletes or fraternity guys from rich families. Even most fraternities that are top tier only take guys from wealthier families and upbringings, they are rarely taking a guy from modest or humble beginnings.
When you talk about fraternity guys in nice houses, you're talking about the top 5% of men who usually came from rich families, did not have to worry about paying for school because it was all on daddy's money, and could dedicate all of their time to chasing tail. 95% of younger guys do not have this privilege in their lives, especially if they come from poor families and have to escape poverty or even strict families that repress them (which is all too common with the rise of helicopter parenting).
So just like you mentioned most older guys are screwed except for the top 5%, it is the same for most younger guys as well. At any age group, women are always going for the top tier men.