[Kaligula]

(03-20-2019 12:23 PM)DamienCasanova Wrote:  

(03-16-2019 09:13 PM)Rigsby Wrote:  

Just when you think you've figured it all out, those bloody Russians come along and piss in your toybox!

Either retrocausality exists or it does not!

Either man went to the moon or he did not!

Either there is life out there in the wider universe or there is not!

It's binary. And whether it ends up being a '0' or a '1' "in reality" - then it's pretty mind-blowing all the same.

Where the fuck is Bill Nye (your mom's a guy) when you need him eh?

Science motherfuckers! Do you even speak it?

Hey man I didn't see you post that link, since I read this thread backwards and TL;DR your post


Wouldn't Quantum physics say that things aren't binary, but that they exist in both states simultaneously depending on observation.

Man went to the moon, and also didn't go to the moon.

The cat is dead and alive at the same time.

There are an infinite number of realities that exist simultaneously in our same reality, all divergent with each different choice or paradox, but all valid and observable depending on your perspective. I don't know, but I think there is a way to square both experiments and both could be valid, I don't think they invalidate each other, quantum physics is built on contradictions and paradoxes I would say.

I can't pretend to understand all this stuff either, but it is fun to speculate.

There is a useful notion of 'ontological commitment' in philosophy.
What you are trying to imagine is the world without ontological commitment. It may be the Platonic shadow in the cave, simulation, illusion, but not the world itself.

The world must be, not can be.
If you are decribing something that just can be, it is not the world. Platonic realm of ideas maybe?