@Aneroid Ocean -- Roosh himself has articulated ideas that are either completely wrong or have blown up his face. The dude spent years and years talking about how hypergamous and broken American women are, yet suddenly did a 180 bemoaning how it's impossible for him to find a quality woman and how he wasted years of his life "enjoying the decline".
Meanwhile, there are probably millions of men in America and hundreds of millions around the world who are in relatively satisfying relationships with women they're attracted to and love. This is not a tiny, "dark-triad" slice of the population, this is a very large group of men who have essentially achieved the impossible in the eyes of the manosphere. Most of them have probably never heard of the red pill or the manosphere.
There are millions of normal, non-"game" aware men across the West who are essentially outperforming Roosh every day of their lives.
I respect game and the manosphere for getting me off my ass and forcing me to approach. I was an awkward, insecure kid when I discovered it in my teens. Roosh and RSD deserve full credit for helping me get my first few lays, get over approach anxiety, and get comfortable spitting game. But as time went on, the issues in their approach/ideology got more and more apparent, at least to me. I think it's important to be critical of game gurus and their teachings.
The best posts on this forum come from guys like LINUX who also call bullshit on a lot of the "truisms" in the manosphere. But for every one of their posts, there are a hundred posts about the 80/20 rule, hypergamy, the decline of morality among American women -- even from guys like Roosh. RSD will put out a million videos about how spam approaching and acting like an autistic ape will get you "major pussy". There's a grain of truth to all these teachings, but the fact is that most of them do not deserve the level of scrutiny and attention that they currently receive.
Meanwhile, there are probably millions of men in America and hundreds of millions around the world who are in relatively satisfying relationships with women they're attracted to and love. This is not a tiny, "dark-triad" slice of the population, this is a very large group of men who have essentially achieved the impossible in the eyes of the manosphere. Most of them have probably never heard of the red pill or the manosphere.
There are millions of normal, non-"game" aware men across the West who are essentially outperforming Roosh every day of their lives.
I respect game and the manosphere for getting me off my ass and forcing me to approach. I was an awkward, insecure kid when I discovered it in my teens. Roosh and RSD deserve full credit for helping me get my first few lays, get over approach anxiety, and get comfortable spitting game. But as time went on, the issues in their approach/ideology got more and more apparent, at least to me. I think it's important to be critical of game gurus and their teachings.
The best posts on this forum come from guys like LINUX who also call bullshit on a lot of the "truisms" in the manosphere. But for every one of their posts, there are a hundred posts about the 80/20 rule, hypergamy, the decline of morality among American women -- even from guys like Roosh. RSD will put out a million videos about how spam approaching and acting like an autistic ape will get you "major pussy". There's a grain of truth to all these teachings, but the fact is that most of them do not deserve the level of scrutiny and attention that they currently receive.