Quote: (11-09-2018 06:36 AM)chvrches Wrote:
Can you explain why it's easier in 2018?
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You say it's actually harder...
I think it has a lot to do with young girls obsessing over social proof, and how will she show you to her friend group if you're not up to the "tinder" standards? What will her friends think about you.
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but i need to know why it's easier when you have these new problems you didn't have in 2001 for instance.
The problems were there MORE in 2001 or 1999 or 2005 or whatever because women hadn't taken a step back and went "no I WONT BE CONDITIONED" about sex yet. Things have shifted fast in that way in USA at least.
Social proof isn't an issue in daygame lone women approaches, you are there, and stimulating her and isolating her to fuck her. ANYPLACE on earth, they want the dick if you can work your game to show her you are taking accountability for the sex happening.
The problems you are throwing out there to me are theory, not in practice game on really young women. In states at least as long as her friends aren't there, no one is there, just you and her, this is all theory and "I think" not practice in field. I never get a sense in field on a young chick that she is "judging me against Tinder hunks" haha.
She is in the moment with me being fully immersed in what I am talking about. If my game or any game was ever based on "walk up and see if she thinks i'm hot or not" we would all be doing direct game BS from 2003.
A chick in same condition in 2001ish was also going after the pickup "I dont wanna be a slut!" so they gave way more last minute resistance and anti slut defense shit.
In 2018 she is going "its ok to be a slut for YOU because sex is ok with strangers because being a sex vamp modern woman is ok socially" is what I gather.
I can't read minds, but I get that vibe in 2018, never did in 2000ish era.
This is all another way mass media misconception of Mystery method/group theory AND social media pickup theory has warped guys against cold approach. These non valid ideas that women are some hive mind and can't individual be changed to suit you in private, without thinking of their friends, social networks, social cybernetic identity etc etc etc.
As Islam teaches haha... "when a man and a woman are alone together in a room the third in the room is the devil"....
Ancient fuckin wisdom and truth. They think sex is bad so.... they mean "you are gonna fuck your best friends wife if you get alone with her with no outside judgement".
It's the same in 2018, if you do cold approach on lone women with a focus on isolation outside of public eye, PLUS these girls are less conditioned to only have sex in LTRs/make him wait etc, than they were in 2001. It ISN'T my game improvements either, i'm talking even hookups (girls just down to fuck in a social circle or such) not pickups (cold approach and heavy influence to get her alone and attracted).
My theory, what I feel/get from them, no science to any of that, but it's easier post maybe 2010ish to bang younger chicks, and when I fuck a 30 something today I get same LMR and ASD shit I did back then. So it's what i've learned. Scandinavia might be different... But I doubt it. Talk to anyone anyplace that hasn't mastered the game and they'll tell you women are tough everyplace and worse now than they ever were or will ever be.
When I see anyone saying "Tinder ruined pickup" "neils book exposed all the secrets (hahaha he never even learned the game for real much less told it)" "in 2008 being asian is a death sentence to game" etc, I just always think "ok what would you have been saying instead of treating this like a fuckin skill to master and getting in field pre tinder or pre this or that?"
Nothing personal chvrches, but your question smacks of the ageless "I think, I wonder, can you motivate me" vs the "I am doing x and it isn't working, why?"
In this community, this game it's always "bitches are evil today FUCK, how can I win easy?"
More than likely anyone who says that? Really it's all about them, not the "era of women", much less 2018/tinder/social media who are REALLY easy to get in bed/conditioned that "being a slut is ok" chicks.
Why there are so few PUAs, most have no concept of hard work and athletic mindset of how to learn and train and endless drill skillsets. Most guys who find this community have an engineers mindset of "I want to know how to do exactly x y and z" not "I wanna hammer a skill until I master it".
Women change, but the guys who don't succeed with women never do. Lack of discipline and effort to work the angles are the universal truth of guys who say "women are harder now than they ever were or ever will be".
Lastly you said "some girls will think you're weird for cold approaching since everything is done through either social circle now or nightgame."
That has ALWAYS been the case everywhere always. That's the classic situation all guys always do and always have everyplace always!!! "Throwing the baby out with the bathwater. It's better that 1 in hell 20 chicks recoil at your gym, or park or lake or beach approach, and the other 19 don't go "what do my 3 friends think here in the club?" as an obstacle by a HUGE margin influence and social frame wise.
It's always been the biggest obstacle to good game, that guys want to approach in the designated areas socially, while drunk, while all her friends are around. That socially protects women from outliers. Meanwhile guys who aren't willing to be outliers/baddies brains can't wrap around it to get women they don't "deserve" pretty much. It's probably inner game issue/approach anxiety issue number 1.
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