Men and women CANNOT be friend for the most part because of biology 101.
We're designed to breed with the opposite sex.
Now there are a few exceptions for friends, such as your buddies girlfriend or wives.
Maybe an old home girl you grew up with as a child - which is rare in itself.
The only women in my life are ones I fuck and date or my boys are dating or married with kids to them.
Obviously those lines I'd NEVER cross because I know where my loyalty lies, to my brothers.
No, no you don't know where he's coming from, you have no clue where he's coming from.
You're a virgin, who hasn't had sex, fallen in love, had a broke heart, broke hearts, or had a rotation of girls in a roster.
You can't say you know how he feels, because you haven't even began the walk in his shoes.
Sex can't be a secondary goal to learn game.
You've got it wrong, you need to learn game to have sex with women which opens pandoras box.
Stop trying to seek companionship with women, you have to understand why there's a brotherhood you can seek support and structure in, and whereas women are whole different thing and there's a reason we have sex and reproduce with them.
The "true love" "the one" "soulmate" I think are all bullshit terms.
I think love is real, BUT it takes game, frame, and leadership for it to work.
A woman chases you, wants to lock you down, have your kids etc.
This woman should complement your life NOT complete your life.
A woman isn't the end all be all cure for something missing in your life, she's an added bonus to the wonderful life you already SHOULD be having.
You were just an orbiter hanging out with these girls, you were these girls validation and affirmation they can still get men.
You deserve better than just friendship with women, but here's the hard part - learning how to be good with women and having sex with them.
You should have ZERO expectation of friendship with women you're interested in, they should know that you're interested in them in an attracted sexual way, and they should know you won't see it any different and aren't into friends.
You shouldn't be a provider in any shape or form until she makes it known she wants to be yours, even then, she should be taking care of you and proving for you and then you can return in kind.
We're designed to breed with the opposite sex.
Now there are a few exceptions for friends, such as your buddies girlfriend or wives.
Maybe an old home girl you grew up with as a child - which is rare in itself.
The only women in my life are ones I fuck and date or my boys are dating or married with kids to them.
Obviously those lines I'd NEVER cross because I know where my loyalty lies, to my brothers.
Quote: (08-28-2018 01:31 PM)Professor When Wrote:
This has led me to think about the general tone that it seems Roosh has toward the idea of marriage, or at least a committed relationship. Although I am new to this site, I certainly see a tone of regret at being unable to find for himself a woman that is worth his time as more than a sexual conquest. I think I understand where he's coming from. I'm a 28 year old virgin and sex is still a secondary goal to my learning of game.
No, no you don't know where he's coming from, you have no clue where he's coming from.
You're a virgin, who hasn't had sex, fallen in love, had a broke heart, broke hearts, or had a rotation of girls in a roster.
You can't say you know how he feels, because you haven't even began the walk in his shoes.
Sex can't be a secondary goal to learn game.
You've got it wrong, you need to learn game to have sex with women which opens pandoras box.
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I really just want companionship. But as I have learned more about what women really are, I wonder to myself if this is an artifact of the Disney propaganda of true love that I have been unable to fully dismiss.
Stop trying to seek companionship with women, you have to understand why there's a brotherhood you can seek support and structure in, and whereas women are whole different thing and there's a reason we have sex and reproduce with them.
The "true love" "the one" "soulmate" I think are all bullshit terms.
I think love is real, BUT it takes game, frame, and leadership for it to work.
A woman chases you, wants to lock you down, have your kids etc.
This woman should complement your life NOT complete your life.
A woman isn't the end all be all cure for something missing in your life, she's an added bonus to the wonderful life you already SHOULD be having.
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Given that minor glimpse of contentment I felt in what I knew was a purely nonsexual relationship, I wonder if there is some hope. This is something I am going to keep in the back of my mind. It's part of many men's natures to be a provider. I have started to reassess what my expectations of friendship are when it comes to women. Rather than seeing it as the brotherhood between men, I see it as me trading my abilities and resources for warmth and respect. As long as I don't allow myself to become so attached that I cannot walk away when she demonstrates that she is not worth my time.
I truly do enjoy that feeling of providing for someone beneath me. What are your thoughts about this?
You were just an orbiter hanging out with these girls, you were these girls validation and affirmation they can still get men.
You deserve better than just friendship with women, but here's the hard part - learning how to be good with women and having sex with them.
You should have ZERO expectation of friendship with women you're interested in, they should know that you're interested in them in an attracted sexual way, and they should know you won't see it any different and aren't into friends.
You shouldn't be a provider in any shape or form until she makes it known she wants to be yours, even then, she should be taking care of you and proving for you and then you can return in kind.