There really isn't a 'right moment' for the kiss.
You lay the right groundwork in the first 30-60 minutes. You're suitably isolated. You've kinoed her progressively over time. You've touched her neck and shoulders. You're sitting close to her. You're having light, fun conversation.
I've kissed when the physical setup was slightly awkward. That's where a little caveman action comes in - put your hand along her jaw, your fingers extending to the back of her neck, and pull her in. In fact, I don't think I ever get the first kiss any more without this caveman move. The hand ensures that her face will line up properly with mine. It sets the tone for what follows. My guy friends have seen me do it and they say I look like a total creep, "clawing" girls, but the girls like it.
When you've done all that, there is no wrong moment to go for this kiss. You kiss because you want to, because you've been talking to her for a bit and enjoying her touch, her company. You aren't looking for her approval to kiss.
I'm thinking back to a couple dates I had a long time ago, and I didn't kiss on them. I'm pretty sure they both wanted second dates, but they both felt a little stiff and repressed to me, and I just lost interest in them. They gave no signs that they wanted to be kissed. But if I had just gone caveman, and steamrolled past their awkwardness, they'd have kissed me freely, and things would have gone differently.
It's a little like approaching. Don't reject yourself - don't take yourself out of the game before you've even tried. If she doesn't want it, she'll let you know.
If you want to do it with flair, you could wait till she's got a cigarette or she's nursing a bottle in her hand. You pull it away from her and set it on the table and pull her in for the kiss. You give her a little notice of what you're doing, and it's ballsy. But that's just for extra style points.
I didn't mention eye contact, because I've had experiences with girls who didn't do much eye contact before, but didn't mind getting kissed anyway. Touch is a more reliable indicator. But even then, I'm going to try kissing her regardless of the signs, and if she doesn't go for it, she wouldn't have banged me anyway.
This works too, put on a fake fight, provoke a strong response from her, and then go for it. But some girls don't get that hopped up, and trying to provoke her might come off as weird. Either way, if you lay the groundwork, you won't need any of these gimmicks but a strong hand and unwavering determination.
You lay the right groundwork in the first 30-60 minutes. You're suitably isolated. You've kinoed her progressively over time. You've touched her neck and shoulders. You're sitting close to her. You're having light, fun conversation.
I've kissed when the physical setup was slightly awkward. That's where a little caveman action comes in - put your hand along her jaw, your fingers extending to the back of her neck, and pull her in. In fact, I don't think I ever get the first kiss any more without this caveman move. The hand ensures that her face will line up properly with mine. It sets the tone for what follows. My guy friends have seen me do it and they say I look like a total creep, "clawing" girls, but the girls like it.
When you've done all that, there is no wrong moment to go for this kiss. You kiss because you want to, because you've been talking to her for a bit and enjoying her touch, her company. You aren't looking for her approval to kiss.
I'm thinking back to a couple dates I had a long time ago, and I didn't kiss on them. I'm pretty sure they both wanted second dates, but they both felt a little stiff and repressed to me, and I just lost interest in them. They gave no signs that they wanted to be kissed. But if I had just gone caveman, and steamrolled past their awkwardness, they'd have kissed me freely, and things would have gone differently.
It's a little like approaching. Don't reject yourself - don't take yourself out of the game before you've even tried. If she doesn't want it, she'll let you know.
If you want to do it with flair, you could wait till she's got a cigarette or she's nursing a bottle in her hand. You pull it away from her and set it on the table and pull her in for the kiss. You give her a little notice of what you're doing, and it's ballsy. But that's just for extra style points.
I didn't mention eye contact, because I've had experiences with girls who didn't do much eye contact before, but didn't mind getting kissed anyway. Touch is a more reliable indicator. But even then, I'm going to try kissing her regardless of the signs, and if she doesn't go for it, she wouldn't have banged me anyway.
Quote: (03-12-2012 08:01 PM)alphamale87 Wrote:
The more you try to push out a memorized or cliche line the better chance you'll ruin the moment. For me, it usually happens after some type of compliment i give her followed by a jest/neg which she playfully will push me or slap my arm with a kind of "stop it!!" but with that look in her eyes. Then you just pull her close and go for it. Don't overanalyze it.
This works too, put on a fake fight, provoke a strong response from her, and then go for it. But some girls don't get that hopped up, and trying to provoke her might come off as weird. Either way, if you lay the groundwork, you won't need any of these gimmicks but a strong hand and unwavering determination.