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So Much Work for So Little in Return
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So Much Work for So Little in Return

Quote: (03-10-2018 10:42 PM)Cobra Wrote:  

Second the advice in this thread. However, here's what I would say which I think is the most relevant:

For God's sakes, please stop blaming the world, or culture, the west or its women for your problems. Main issue is that you're insecure and projecting that on to problems that are known to be true in this community to alleviate accountability for yourself.

It's a common pattern on the forum these days and it's painful to follow. You need to focus on yourself. Stop groveling, take action and report back.


We will help you adjust if you're fucking up in the process. We're not here to make you feel better but rather help you BE better.

I think this a little unfair to the OP. He doesn't seem to be having problem getting chicks but he's having problems figuring out a path forward with them which is something that doesn't get nearly the attention and discussion that it should on the forum (overwhelming discussion is about how to go about getting them in the first place). As men, I think its fair to demand much more from the women we date. If we as men demand more of these chicks, then you'd slowly but surely start to see changes in their behavior but most guys are failing miserably in this regard. I know for myself that I expect certain behaviors from women that I date and I'm not the least bit shy about communicating this, no fucks given for how offended she gets. It also serves as a shit test to weed out stupid chicks. I agree with making yourself as high value as you can because then you can demand these things from women and if they want to be in your high value life then she needs to get down with the program, period.

Luckyfever, I'm not sure how old you are but just keep going, keep working on yourself, making your life great. Then if you want to find that girl to marry and have kids, then look for her and understand that it will take time, a lot of effort and likely a lot of heartache. It's just the way it is, there's no sugar coating that. Linux's parable about the donkey and the carrot on the stick is very true, often in life we are chasing things and following paths for which there is no final destination, no great payoff which we had anticipated. Women may be at the top of the list of things that fit into this category given the mercurial nature of the vast majority of women. Women come and women go, that's just how it is, even the ones who you marry for 20 years and have kids with. Just be happy, live life, have a plan so at least the donkey will try to walk in a straight line instead of a circle and don't waste time with loser women who will be vampires, sucking away your at your life.
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