[Goldin Boy]

(11-05-2017 12:27 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

All you "black"(I doubt you really are black) posters who want to return to segregation are out of your goddamn mind-my mother and father lived through segregation and marched to end it. My parents had to endure that shit and fought to get a chance for me not to have to deal with that oppression.

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Any "black" poster here who thinks segregation was a good thing is likely a troll and unworthy of having their opinion considered seriously. I have rights my Grandfather could not fathom, his grandfather was a slave-born into bondage. With my rights come responsibilities, and I shoulder those responsibilities as well as I can manage-sometimes I slip, fail and disappoint myself-but I get up and try to give this world more positives than negatives. Most men are like this , and MLK was likely like this-If you want to condemn him , go for it-but ask yourself what have you done with your short time on this planet? Probably not as much as MLK, probably did not get as much ass as he did either.

Can't believe some had to actually type-out this very obvious point. Civil right gave Black self-determination. Some Blacks made good choices, some didn't. But at least they have agency and can change their life trajectory if they choose to.

(Samseau if at any point I misinterpreted you, please correct me and clarify):

Samseau's major points in this thread appear to be

1): MLK was married preacher, yet he had affairs. This discredits all this sermons and non-religious speeches and activities. Anything influenced by his speeches and other actives is therefore wrong as well.

2) Blacks need to choose strong, nuclear families or a civil rights and equal protection under the law because they can't have both simultaneously.

The Civil Right's movement didn't guarantee that every Black man will be a success but removed de jure obstacles that precluded earlier generation of Blacks from living, working, and doing whatever they wanted however they wanted.

How much social mobility and economic opportunity did Blacks, specifically Black men, have in pre-1960? I imagine it's hard to provide for that loving family when:

1) Bank won't mortgage loans regardless of credit history,
2) employers won't hire regardless of a work experience
3) The government gives out benefits only to Whites that helped them to build generational wealth (G.I. bill, homesteading laws).
4) (While it didn't always happen): A white person could do bodily harm to you or kill you with little cause/provocation and there you have little legal recourse (Black Wall Street, Emmit Till, Solomon Northrup).