[PapayaTapper]

(04-26-2017 04:35 PM)Feldeinsamkeit Wrote:  

OK, guys, I've been off the RVF grid for a while now for a good reason: Since the beginning of April I've switched to running completely direct game in which I approach a woman I like and tell her straight up that I think she's attractive, using the London Daygame Model as the framework around which I steer the interaction. The results with my first 100 approaches have been very slow to come in, but in the last week, I've managed to get a good-looking Italian student out on a date after a number close from a cold approach in town and I've also number closed a couple of German girls, both late 20s, slim and attractive, although unfortunately both have already flaked.

But to turn to my daygame session today, the first woman I approach, a slim and OK-looking German hipster type around the age of 30 seemed interested in me from the get go and started to invest quite quickly soon after I had opened her. One of the best body language signs that I've come to recognize with keen girls is when they voluntarily come very close into your space the more the interaction progresses, whilst holding good eye-contact and giving other IOIs, such as getting quite flushed or playing manically with their hair. And this broad was displaying most of these signs and so, after five minutes of various banter about ourselves, I tell her that I want to take her out for a coffee. She replies somewhat hesitantly that it "won't be soon, though", since she's - yes, you've guessed it folks already - got a bloody boyfriend.

Now, up until today when the girl has dropped the BF bomb I've simply acknowledged this fact, wished her well and ejected from the set. But today something different happened with me even though I hadn't planned for it: I simply paused for a couple of seconds and said to her, in a firm tone of voice, "I still want to take you out for a coffee" whilst looking directly into her eyes. I was expecting her to just repeat her previous BF objection and move away, but she simply stood there, cocked me a rather curious little grin and got her phone out to give me her number. She even went to a bit of trouble to make sure that I'd managed to ring through to her phone once she'd given me it.

This interaction has left me wondering what the hell the deal is with women who say they have boyfriends. My experience thus far is that if women are already spoken for in some sense, they are much more likely to respond extremely warmly to my approaches than if they are actually single and I'm still struggling to get my head around why this should be the case. With the broad in question, I'll be playing it by ear from now on and will text her in couple of days to see what's up with her and keep you guys posted on how this pans out.

Like I said

(03-02-2017 05:33 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 04:10 PM)Feldeinsamkeit Wrote:  

But have you ever been in situations where this has worked, though, i.e., she initially drops the BF bomb, but you disregard and still ask for her number and she gives you it and, to take the cake, you still end up banging the girl? This for me is the million dollar question, since it is the biggest stumbling block I've encountered with an otherwise very positive reception from the girl.

Yes. It's been said a million times. Rarely is a truly attractive girl single.



Her "interest" is just her way of testing to see if you're her next branch.

Like everything it's a simple battle between "fear" and "desire"

Your game just has to create enough attraction (desire for something unknown: you) to overcome her fear (losing something known:her current boyfriend).

If she's truly receptive to the "possibility of you" it's indicative of a less than"100% happy" in her current situation. There's a crack there

Best practice: Pretend to not even hear the existence of the BF (If you don't ignore...she can't...You do ignore it...she can too) In some cases she'll feel her her conscience is clear because she told you

Quick example-

Her: "Im sorry...Ive got a BF"

You: "Well are you a coffee or tea kind of girl? I'd bet your the coffee type...right?

Her "Ummm no I prefer tea actually"

You "Great, then I'd like to buy you a cup of tea. I know this cool place nearby that has....blah blah"

Ignore the BF ...Play on

If

PS Try using "forced alternative' questions (another topic) where either answer is a win for you rather than a determined "yes" or "no". It's a basic "sales" technique that translates well into game

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