[John Michael Kane]

(01-20-2017 10:27 PM)weambulance Wrote:  

God dammit, here I am arguing a side I don't even support again.

Richard Spencer didn't give a Nazi salute. He said "Hail trump" and some faggots in the crowd, obviously not white nationalists, did the salute. Criticize him if you want, I certainly have, but criticize what he actually did, not the spun story afterward.

And as to the wife and kids question, I was speaking of the extreme overuse of that as an arbitrary qualifier in general not specifically in the case of Richard Spencer. I made a halfass effort to signal that but I should've done a better job, clearly.

No hard feelings, I'm not even arguing, I just find the whole matter rather curious. Until recently, I hadn't even heard of Spencer. Of course, with the media always looking to spin things, it is hard to get first-hand truth on any situation.

We can argue if it was a Nazi salute or not. I'm not going to say for certain one way or another. That being said, it was profoundly stupid on his part to do, even if he wasn't trying to make it a Nazi look-a-like, he should always be operating under the assumption that the MSM will twist things, and if he isn't a genuine Nazi supporter, then why give them fuel for the fire? I just question that kind of judgement from the man.

I think a wife and kids are foundational for the good of any organized society. With the exception of a few philosopher kings who dedicate their entire life's work to a particular study, not everyone can be a philosopher. You need a huge phalanx of men having families. I just don't see that in either the leadership of WN or most of the followers.

If WN was a business, I just don't see it growing its market share in relative or absolute terms because there's no real leadership, and no vision.