Quote: (12-27-2016 07:21 PM)Gorgiass Wrote:
Quote: (12-27-2016 06:09 PM)weambulance Wrote:
And he presented that "stabbed in the back by a jew" thing as something BA created when it was something he just retweeted, created by @HightechLowlife88 (88 = DOB, or Heil Hitler? Honestly don't know).
What difference do you see here? Either way it's an endorsement of the image. Plenty of people have been rightly banned from this forum for posting racist, gay and otherwise offensive memes and pics that they didn't create. It doesn't matter - posting something is an endorsement of it.
And by the way, that's exactly the wording Cernovich used "posted to his public Instagram", no mention of creating it. Not that it should matter in the least.
What difference I see is the obvious, intrinsic difference between the two actions. I'm not sure what else to say to you if you can't see the difference between a retweet and creating an image.
No, a retweet is not the same as if you said it yourself. What about all the people who retweet shit they disagree with, to show their audience? Your argument is built on a false premise.
And I'm sorry, but that Cernovich post is all spin. In the context of a spin article, it is very clear why he presented it the way he did. Again, I don't know what else to say to you if you don't see the significance of the presentation. These subtleties are what make spin work. Spin relies on a degree of truthiness, but never the whole truth.
Why's he bringing up Baked Alaska's "real name"? It has absolutely nothing to do with the issue at hand. It's a technique designed to paint Baked Alaska as dishonest for using a pseudonym. Well shit, by that standard I guess we're all shitbag liars, including Roosh, right? Mike is trying to paint a picture of the guy in a way he wouldn't have to if he had an ironclad case on his side.
Cernovich has been making tweets and immediately deleting them, making periscopes and immediately deleting them, relying on logical fallacies like ad hominems and tiptoeing close to defamation. Baked Alaska... hasn't been. He's just outright making fun of Mike and he has openly acknowledged his flaws and problems. If he's been playing the memory hole game, I haven't noticed it yet. Like him or not, at least he's being open.
I've been following Mike for years. I think he's done a lot of great work, and he's led me to ideas that directly improved my life, but this behavior flat out looks like shit. It does not look like someone who's in the right and knows it, with nothing to hide.
Once again, I find myself in the bizarre position of trying to argue the case of the side I don't even agree with. But I'm not going to descend to intellectual dishonesty and lies just to prop up my side. I'm not going to endorse Mike's handling of this situation just because I think he's right about the substance of their disagreement.