Hello, fellow newbs. Do you sometimes use online dating, like I do? Do you sometimes struggle with those girls who seem really into you on a date, but then nothing happens, and you text her later and don't hear from her again?
Do you wonder..."But XPQ22! We're about a half-hour in, and I'm not sure what to do. The conversation is going really well, and we're on our second drink...but I'm far away from home territory, with poor logistics. How do I know what to do? Should I kiss her? Should I ask her if she wants a ride home? Is she simply a serial-dater, here to have me entertain her, and waste my time?"
Are you feeling dismayed? Disappointed? Without self-confidence? Unsure of your value as a man? Willing to throw yourself around and run your tightest game on the next online hoe who deigns to give you a whiff of possible pussy?
Sadly, these are all at least secondary goals of the average serial-dating Internet hoe.
But never fear. I'm here to help with these all-important questions.
So here are some facts. There are two primary types of hoe you're gonna meet up with IRL after you exchange a few texts on Tinder:
A) hoes who are "with it"
B) hoes who are not "with it"
(Keep in mind that they are indeed all hoes, and are almost certainly letting at least one other guy choke her while he fucks her regularly and then kicks her out of his place while they're playing little miss sweet introvert "I feel uncomfortable meeting new people" like they're brand new on your date. Because I've been that guy. But I digress.)
Your mission, if you choose to accept it: give Category "A" the opportunity to experience the full might of your flow.
Ensure Category "B" will be left standing alone in the rain outside the bar after about 45 minutes, wondering why that handsome, charming young man they were just chatting with, who seemed like he was good for endless hours of orbiting and validation, never came back from the bathroom.
Now, I've been on a good amount of Internet dates, and what I know is that these serial-daters can be pretty crafty. The truth is it's very difficult to judge legitimate interest from text messages. Hoes who aren't with it, and are going on dates at 8 pm to enjoy a few hours of entertainment before they bounce to Chad Thundercock's place for their weekly rape-fantasy roleplay session are pretty good at giving impressions; they're like stealth bombers. They'll rapidly mold themselves to your flow via text and text you whatever they think you want to hear, be whatever you want them to be, and come in under your radar in their mission to obtain that validation.
You really can't tell shit about a chick from how enthusiastic or not enthusiastic she seems via text.
The solution is fairly simple, and has of course been mentioned by others on the forum before: you need to engage in physical escalation a soon as possible. I'm just giving my own spin on it here. Are you going for the bar makeout? Nah, don't do that. You'll turn off some "Category A" hoes who are with it, but aren't big into PDA. They might gladly suck your dick in your car in private, though.
Most "Category Bs" have a severe weakness in their armor, though: they absolutely cannot tolerate physical escalation of any type. They'll chat with you, they can tell you all sorts of nice things, they can give you interesting conversation, they can text you like they're really interested in your life, but the moment "push comes to shove" in the real world, they finally have no ability to fake around their true disinterest. It's a visceral, automatic reaction, like the doctor's hammer against the kneecap.
So at the end of the day, the process of ejecting the timewasters rapidly is very straightforward and requires only the barest minimum of "escalation." At about 30-45 minutes into the date (if she hasn't left immediately, of course), she's had one drink and she's still talking with you, laughing, and looking at you when you talk instead of her phone, at an appropriate juncture all you have to do is laugh at something she says, lean towards her personal space, and take her hands in yours. It doesn't actually matter if you don't feel the timing is quite right, or it feels a little "awkward." Just gather up your courage, do it, and don't ask.
As I said, her reaction will be immediate, visceral, unconscious, and unable to fake. It will pretty much go one of two ways: she'll lean in likewise and accept it, or she'll lean back and seem like she's pulling away. Just watch how she responds and trust your instincts on how you think it played out. They'll be right.
If it goes the second case, start thinking about how badly that beer made you have to pee, and planning your exit. You'll never bang her - I can guarantee it.
Update later on what to do in the first case. But the takeaway should be that if she likes your pictures and profile enough to take the time to meet up, and she likes your personality, look, and game during the IRL meet enough to stay for ~45 minutes, there is absolutely no good reason for her to draw away at that first minor step in physical escalation. None whatsoever. Cut your losses early, she's wasting your time.
Do you wonder..."But XPQ22! We're about a half-hour in, and I'm not sure what to do. The conversation is going really well, and we're on our second drink...but I'm far away from home territory, with poor logistics. How do I know what to do? Should I kiss her? Should I ask her if she wants a ride home? Is she simply a serial-dater, here to have me entertain her, and waste my time?"
Are you feeling dismayed? Disappointed? Without self-confidence? Unsure of your value as a man? Willing to throw yourself around and run your tightest game on the next online hoe who deigns to give you a whiff of possible pussy?
Sadly, these are all at least secondary goals of the average serial-dating Internet hoe.
But never fear. I'm here to help with these all-important questions.
So here are some facts. There are two primary types of hoe you're gonna meet up with IRL after you exchange a few texts on Tinder:
A) hoes who are "with it"
B) hoes who are not "with it"
(Keep in mind that they are indeed all hoes, and are almost certainly letting at least one other guy choke her while he fucks her regularly and then kicks her out of his place while they're playing little miss sweet introvert "I feel uncomfortable meeting new people" like they're brand new on your date. Because I've been that guy. But I digress.)
Your mission, if you choose to accept it: give Category "A" the opportunity to experience the full might of your flow.
Ensure Category "B" will be left standing alone in the rain outside the bar after about 45 minutes, wondering why that handsome, charming young man they were just chatting with, who seemed like he was good for endless hours of orbiting and validation, never came back from the bathroom.
Now, I've been on a good amount of Internet dates, and what I know is that these serial-daters can be pretty crafty. The truth is it's very difficult to judge legitimate interest from text messages. Hoes who aren't with it, and are going on dates at 8 pm to enjoy a few hours of entertainment before they bounce to Chad Thundercock's place for their weekly rape-fantasy roleplay session are pretty good at giving impressions; they're like stealth bombers. They'll rapidly mold themselves to your flow via text and text you whatever they think you want to hear, be whatever you want them to be, and come in under your radar in their mission to obtain that validation.
You really can't tell shit about a chick from how enthusiastic or not enthusiastic she seems via text.
The solution is fairly simple, and has of course been mentioned by others on the forum before: you need to engage in physical escalation a soon as possible. I'm just giving my own spin on it here. Are you going for the bar makeout? Nah, don't do that. You'll turn off some "Category A" hoes who are with it, but aren't big into PDA. They might gladly suck your dick in your car in private, though.
Most "Category Bs" have a severe weakness in their armor, though: they absolutely cannot tolerate physical escalation of any type. They'll chat with you, they can tell you all sorts of nice things, they can give you interesting conversation, they can text you like they're really interested in your life, but the moment "push comes to shove" in the real world, they finally have no ability to fake around their true disinterest. It's a visceral, automatic reaction, like the doctor's hammer against the kneecap.
So at the end of the day, the process of ejecting the timewasters rapidly is very straightforward and requires only the barest minimum of "escalation." At about 30-45 minutes into the date (if she hasn't left immediately, of course), she's had one drink and she's still talking with you, laughing, and looking at you when you talk instead of her phone, at an appropriate juncture all you have to do is laugh at something she says, lean towards her personal space, and take her hands in yours. It doesn't actually matter if you don't feel the timing is quite right, or it feels a little "awkward." Just gather up your courage, do it, and don't ask.
As I said, her reaction will be immediate, visceral, unconscious, and unable to fake. It will pretty much go one of two ways: she'll lean in likewise and accept it, or she'll lean back and seem like she's pulling away. Just watch how she responds and trust your instincts on how you think it played out. They'll be right.
If it goes the second case, start thinking about how badly that beer made you have to pee, and planning your exit. You'll never bang her - I can guarantee it.
Update later on what to do in the first case. But the takeaway should be that if she likes your pictures and profile enough to take the time to meet up, and she likes your personality, look, and game during the IRL meet enough to stay for ~45 minutes, there is absolutely no good reason for her to draw away at that first minor step in physical escalation. None whatsoever. Cut your losses early, she's wasting your time.