As far as I'm aware of, the Bible never mentions it per se, but if a man had sex with an unmarried woman in the OT he was obligated to marry her and pay her father a dowry.
In the NT Paul mentions "fornication", other than that it isn't mentioned specifically.
My thought is that "sex before marriage" wasn't exclusively forbidden per se; I believe the sin it was trying to hint at was along the lines of "pumping and dumping" - sleeping with a woman but not providing for her and/or any pregnancy which resulted.
In Bible times patriarchal lineage and a husband knowing who the real father of his kids was was very culturally important; hence if a man took a woman's virginity but didn't marry her it it was viewed as dishonoring her father since she would no longer be desirable as marriage material. Similar to renting a car, getting in a fender bender, and then returning it without paying for the damage caused.
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Today these views seem pretty incompatible with the current landscape; seeing as most women don't have a sense of "obligation" to her family to remain a virgin, nor any shortage of chumps still willing to hook up with or marry her and pay for the baby daddy's spawn out of their own pocket; not to mention women being able to support themselves today without the aid of a provider husband (often courtesy of big daddy govt).
So it's an example of traditionalism not keeping up with the times.
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(Interestingly some of the more extreme anti-sexual attitudes found in Christianity today may actually have their root more in Gnosticism or Platonism which apparently had an influence on the early church - Nietzche calling Christianity "Platonism for the people".)
I'm not an expert on Gnosticism but the big 'jist' of it is that the material world and it's pleasures are inherently 'bad' or 'inferior' and that denying them as much as possible leads to oneness with God, making it similar to Buddhism in some respects. I've heard some say that St. Paul himself may have been connected to Gnosticism).
Interestingly I heard it was partly done to ensure more 'equal distribution of women' and prevent the highest status men from taking all of the women, so this makes it quite controversial as it sounds almost like a sexual "affirmative action".
In the NT Paul mentions "fornication", other than that it isn't mentioned specifically.
My thought is that "sex before marriage" wasn't exclusively forbidden per se; I believe the sin it was trying to hint at was along the lines of "pumping and dumping" - sleeping with a woman but not providing for her and/or any pregnancy which resulted.
In Bible times patriarchal lineage and a husband knowing who the real father of his kids was was very culturally important; hence if a man took a woman's virginity but didn't marry her it it was viewed as dishonoring her father since she would no longer be desirable as marriage material. Similar to renting a car, getting in a fender bender, and then returning it without paying for the damage caused.
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Today these views seem pretty incompatible with the current landscape; seeing as most women don't have a sense of "obligation" to her family to remain a virgin, nor any shortage of chumps still willing to hook up with or marry her and pay for the baby daddy's spawn out of their own pocket; not to mention women being able to support themselves today without the aid of a provider husband (often courtesy of big daddy govt).
So it's an example of traditionalism not keeping up with the times.
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(Interestingly some of the more extreme anti-sexual attitudes found in Christianity today may actually have their root more in Gnosticism or Platonism which apparently had an influence on the early church - Nietzche calling Christianity "Platonism for the people".)
I'm not an expert on Gnosticism but the big 'jist' of it is that the material world and it's pleasures are inherently 'bad' or 'inferior' and that denying them as much as possible leads to oneness with God, making it similar to Buddhism in some respects. I've heard some say that St. Paul himself may have been connected to Gnosticism).
Quote:Quote:In the Bible era God never forbid polygamy; I believe it was the early Catholic Church which actually instituted monogamy.
So, God does allow men to have harems.
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Interestingly I heard it was partly done to ensure more 'equal distribution of women' and prevent the highest status men from taking all of the women, so this makes it quite controversial as it sounds almost like a sexual "affirmative action".