Quote: (03-02-2016 04:43 PM)Lex S. Wrote:
Quote: (03-02-2016 04:05 PM)rottenapple Wrote:
This thread is great, lots of good information, but the spectrum of fucked up women these days is incredible. More then half of the hottest girls I know have serious illnesses I estimate (narcissims, lack of empathy, completely unable to achieve something, anxiety issues, etc.). We could use some professionals here to make strong datasheets on fucking and keeping mentally ill hot girls while not losing yourself in the end. I´d be interested.
To both you and Dantes: Yeah, tons of modern women have tons of weird behaviors. But there's a HUGE difference between a girl who's quirky and one who has BPD. If you've never experienced full on BPD then you'll have no clue the misery these creatures can create.
Dantes, you hit the nail on the head about shitty behavior in women being more socially acceptable than ever before. I watched "Girl, Interrupted" recently was was amazed that in the 60's a woman could be committed for over a year because of BPD. Meanwhile today I've seen BPD symptoms in tons of girls who will openly admit they're crazy. Yet they're allowed to walk around freely, the only "punishment" they have is taking medication that will mask some symptoms but not change their overall personalities (Most BPDs are incorrectly diagnosed as bipolar). A guy I know had an obviously BPD girlfriend who vandalized his car after an argument, yet HE got arrested. I know other girls who were into self-harm and suicide attempts in their younger years. No institutions for them, they just got bandaged up at the hospital and were sent home. Millennial women are given positive reinforcement to act like fucking psychos.
And Rottenapple, so many girls I know in the big city are on some kind of anti-anxiety medication or anti-depressant. And while many of them are high-functioning, some of them barely squeak by. The part you mentioned that stands out to me is how they're completely unable to achieve something. White Knighting by society has gotten so bad that a girl can barely function but still be accepted in society. Women used to cook and take care of the home. Now most girls I know have rooms that are a complete mess and they order take-out every night because they can't even boil water. And it's tough to criticize them for their shortcomings because they've been fed bullshit by a "You go girl" society that she's perfect as-is, so your objective assessment must be wrong because no one else ever tells her that.
I've been trying to find a decent, long-term relationship worthy girl for a while now. And it's tough because I either fall into the BPD death trap or I find a girl who can barely take care of herself. And it's not like these are losers, many of them are high-functioning types with good jobs and educations. I enjoy the game tenet of being a self-sufficient man. On the one hand you should be able to take of yourself completely. On the other hand, women fail so spectacularly at traditional female tasks that even if you settled down and got married you'd never be able to count on them to hold up their end of the deal.
Yes, all of what you said is true and one thing I want to highlight is that indeed the white knighting contributes a lot to it and it does so in a twofold way. One, hot girls don´t learn how to do anything because guys will do it for them in order to have a chance to get laid, but secondly, like you mentioned, also because no one ever seems to call out these girls and mentions that they are completely worthless. Recently I confronted some model type girls about their lack of qualities and it was interesting to see how competely fazed they were by it. Like no one ever had mentioned that to them. The pass a hot girl gets of society at literally all levels is amazing and although you´d think they can use that to their advantage, for a mayority of them it is a trap. Without the pressure to learn things, to achieve something in life, they cruise to their teenage years having fun, but in the end it comes back to them in their twenties/thirties when they realize that all they have is their looks, they are most likely dependent by that age on one or more men and it hits them. They are nothing, toys for powerful men, soulless creatures who add nothing to no ones life, except for the physical pleasure they provide. They realize they are not fit to be a mother, nor a wife. This then becomes the breading ground for emotional disorders. They survive by the shallow likes they receive on instagram, but depression is right around the corner. Anxiety issues pop up and some can go full crazy as the stories in this thread have highlighted so well.
What can we do about it? Little perhaps, but I advocate at least putting them in their place as early on as possible. I see it as an obligation to society to tell a young 19yo cutie that she needs to start doing shit, having seen how they end up ten years later. Some of them will punish you for it and dissappear out of your life, so be it. And yes, off course I´m not immune to their looks and charisma, so I will offer to help them to become something better. But always keep in mind, there is a difference in helping someone learn or teaching something vs. doing it for them. That is crucial and differentiates the knowleadgable alpha with the beta. The difficult part for me still is to be able to identify lost causes. Sometimes you just got to pull the trigger on a person, no matter how hot she is. That or you put her in the harem if your cold/emotionally detached enough.