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(11-23-2011 12:11 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

At this point I believe there's no way to directly debate the point-- as my father said "never argue with a woman."
He meant it in a strategic retreat sense: humor them, agree with what they say, and then go ahead and do whatever you want. It worked pretty well with my mother.

that's very true. in order to come to some conclusions both parts have to be able to metally comprehend other person reasons and focused on the point of discussion. women can't really do that. there's no point in arguing with them. there's no point in rationally proving she's wrong just out of your pride (like "she's wrong! and i will show her who's right.."). it's lose/lose

i've learned that it's best to just treat them like unaware little girls who live in their own fantasy world that they are and to keep them in their little bubble. literally not giving a fuck about "enlightening" them (it stems from approval seeking aka conveying value mindset). so in reality it looks like a girl is telling me something i know it's bullshit and i just go "oh yeah.. maybe" and i do my thing ignoring it completely. i got ovet this "i'm right and i will prove it" mindset.

my good buddy does that too. it's funny to watch how he handles some situation resisting the temptation to prove his GF he's right when i know he IS right. in that moment she literally becomes 10 year old brat again : ))

(11-23-2011 12:11 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

I think the trick is to simply say "My position is X, it's not changing." and then simply accept her actions if she toes the line or split if she doesn't. But I'm sure some of you more natural alphas have ideas on this.

my cousin is like that with his GF and it works amazing. he stubborn fucker, he has his diet so he eats very specific meals and specific hours, he doesn't drink, he got his workout, he got his habits and this is not about to change. she can adapt or leave. that's his standpoint. everytime she shittest him about it she get ignored or get really dominated later in the bed where he's treating her like a little bitch