Quote: (12-30-2015 04:14 PM)polar Wrote:
To answer your last question - you don't. You have a scarcity mindset (aka oneitis), and your odds of success are single-digit.
You're already friend zoned. Anything you try will be a Hail Mary play.
If you don't have friends in common and are ok with the risk of fallout with her, try one of the strategies suggested (just for you!) above just for the learning experience.
A better thing to do - stop wasting time on her and go hit on other women. Ten first dates from now, you won't even remember this happened.
To add to this, try the Roosh approach technique of imagining that you've already failed. IOW internalize that you probably won't get anywhere with this woman. Thus you've nothing to lose making a serious last-ditch move, and you know you're gonna game other women at the same time, so you can train yourself to have very low loss aversion here.
BTW, I've found and so have many other guys that making a move on a woman who turns out to be not interested and then acting nonchalant about the rejection has positive benefits - occasionally, it will flip the girl's feelings, but in general, it ends the (non)romance on good terms, and she won't call you a creeper around town, and she might tell other girls you're the kind of guy who knows what he wants even if she doesn't dig you.