OP
Lesson#1
If it's pre bang never make out with a chick unless it's somewhere you can escalate to the bang. My sense is your best shot was first date when you were still potential "mysterious Mr Tingles guy". Key word here is potential. Making out without banging, especially for an extended period is emotionally about as stimulating as a boring conversation given that most cute chicks have been making out for about a decade by the time they reach 23 yo.....yawn
Remember a chicks brain is wired to be excited /turned on/ intrigued by the unknown pre-bang. If you bang and lay some serious good pipe then that potential has been converted to "actuality"..."OMG he rocked my world"
If I meet a girl for the first time while out and I can tell she's into me I try to get her to my place with laser focus....but I do not kiss her. If it's not going to happen but I can tell she's into it and open for a make out I get her number and leave. Just before I jettison I lean in like Im going to kiss her and just ever so slightly brush her lips with mine, stop, pull back, look her in the eyes, give her a wink, turn and leave without looking back. Mystery/potential preserved and amplified. I wish I had a $1 for every time a chick later told me this move left her in a puddle of her own pussy juice
Lesson #2
Shit tests are when a girl consciously does something to get a reaction so they can gauge and measure you...to see what value you think you have. But that doesn't mean they aren't measuring you unconsciously the rest of the time. Asking you to "hang" with her and another guy friend, whether consciously or unconsciously on her part was a critical moment in her inventory of you...and you likely lost all your remaining "Mr Man" currency at that juncture.
Never agree to hangout with a chicks friends pre-bang unless it specifically puts you in a position to demonstrate high value via social proof. Random examples: if you're a great salsa dancer, surfer, snowboarder, speak a foreign language then you may want to let her friends see you dance, surf, snowboard, order food in Mandarin, etc, respectively then yes...they will then actually help you by saying "wow he's so cool, talented, smart, etc". A male friend along for a date?..what's the possible upside?...none. He's certainly not going to hold her legs up for you while you bang her.
Like its been said before...file it away and chalk it up to experience. Youre lucky you've come to the right place...RVF can make the learning curve faster and less painful if you pay attention
Lesson#1
If it's pre bang never make out with a chick unless it's somewhere you can escalate to the bang. My sense is your best shot was first date when you were still potential "mysterious Mr Tingles guy". Key word here is potential. Making out without banging, especially for an extended period is emotionally about as stimulating as a boring conversation given that most cute chicks have been making out for about a decade by the time they reach 23 yo.....yawn
Remember a chicks brain is wired to be excited /turned on/ intrigued by the unknown pre-bang. If you bang and lay some serious good pipe then that potential has been converted to "actuality"..."OMG he rocked my world"
If I meet a girl for the first time while out and I can tell she's into me I try to get her to my place with laser focus....but I do not kiss her. If it's not going to happen but I can tell she's into it and open for a make out I get her number and leave. Just before I jettison I lean in like Im going to kiss her and just ever so slightly brush her lips with mine, stop, pull back, look her in the eyes, give her a wink, turn and leave without looking back. Mystery/potential preserved and amplified. I wish I had a $1 for every time a chick later told me this move left her in a puddle of her own pussy juice
Lesson #2
Shit tests are when a girl consciously does something to get a reaction so they can gauge and measure you...to see what value you think you have. But that doesn't mean they aren't measuring you unconsciously the rest of the time. Asking you to "hang" with her and another guy friend, whether consciously or unconsciously on her part was a critical moment in her inventory of you...and you likely lost all your remaining "Mr Man" currency at that juncture.
Never agree to hangout with a chicks friends pre-bang unless it specifically puts you in a position to demonstrate high value via social proof. Random examples: if you're a great salsa dancer, surfer, snowboarder, speak a foreign language then you may want to let her friends see you dance, surf, snowboard, order food in Mandarin, etc, respectively then yes...they will then actually help you by saying "wow he's so cool, talented, smart, etc". A male friend along for a date?..what's the possible upside?...none. He's certainly not going to hold her legs up for you while you bang her.
Like its been said before...file it away and chalk it up to experience. Youre lucky you've come to the right place...RVF can make the learning curve faster and less painful if you pay attention
_______________________________________
- Does She Have The "Happy Gene" ?
-Inversion Therapy
-Let's lead by example
"Leap, and the net will appear". John Burroughs
"The big question is whether you are going to be able to say a hearty yes to your adventure."
Joseph Campbell