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I spent a lot of time on the MGTOW forums last yr, but I learnt more from RVF about self-improvement in a shorter time period than on MGTOW. I have nothing against them because their not my enemies, but it gets depressing after a while reading the same ol' "fuck society" theme that seems to be common there.

Like QC said earlier, it's very easy to get stuck into self-defeating attitude with all the anti-male propaganda in the west.. and a lot of males can't get their shit together. RVF has helped me take more initiative in my life, and I'm grateful I found this site.
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