Quote: (06-11-2015 11:59 AM)ElBorrachoInfamoso Wrote:
Quote: (06-11-2015 11:49 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:
You are putting your hand in our pockets by encouraging all this invasion of the labor market.
What pocket? You mean the pocket of the person you want to force to hire you? That's not your pocket.
Quote: (06-11-2015 11:54 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:
This ultra libertarian principle doesn't take into consideration the government sweetheart deals, the special land grants, and taxpayer funded subsidies that all went into making these companies successful. Corporations just don't magically become a success. This has never been true in history. There was always some backer or government intervention which made it work.
There's a whole system of kickbacks, paybacks, and special interest loans which makes things happen. I'm doing business on a tiny scale and yet the principles are the same.
I know people running start ups who have not taken one cent of government money, have no special grants, nothing. I'm not saying that most big businesses don't do that, but you can't generalize to all businesses that use H1B.
Thing is you take a company like Disney, they benefit from setting up and doing business in a first world country. They business depends on having first world people with disposable income who can afford to fly to their theme parks, spend hundreds on tickets, buy their movies and merchandise, etc. Yet as profitable as they are, they don't feel any obligation to provide a first world wage. They want have their cake and eat it too. How can anyone look at the logic of this and not see that it is ultimately self-destructive? To have a first world country, people need to earn first world wages. For Disney to exist, they need a consumer base of first world earners. India is not consuming their products and keeping them in business, it's Americans. Just imagine what would happen if companies started duplicating this model on a mass scale? What would that do to the middle class? None of this matters to you?