Quote: (05-08-2015 06:16 PM)Basil Ransom Wrote:
I agree with the OP. Even if you disagree on the particulars, there is no question to me that there has been a strong trend OVER TIME as the OP says. It's like asking, is it hard to get laid? Relative to what? Relative to when? Relative to where? As the OP says, things have gotten worse over time. Several decent forum players have decamped from my hood, Los Angeles, due in part to diminishing returns here. The ones remaining have been rather disenchanted as well, and I don't think it's just nostalgia.
To be sure, girls aren't going to convents and abstaining from dick. But the obstacles to getting laid as a pure stranger seem to grow by the year. Which is what Jariel said, even as he professes to disagree with the OP - I see that as agreeing with the OP. These asexual big mixed social groups keep proliferating, netflix and eggs benedict brunch become more appealing than getting fucked by a cool stranger.
Yeah I'm with Basil here, I think the OP does have a point and I think some of you guys beat up on him a little bit, although I think W.I.A. is right as well and made some good points.
I've never been at the pinnacle of game, but I've had some decent runs and been into "game" for about 4-5 years now, I got to say that meeting new girls and trying to get your dick wet, often times feels like a major chore, if not an outright job.
I think the "looks threshold" has gone up, I think bodybuilding overall has become more popular over the past 5-10 years and competition amongst men is increasing.
It's like supply and demand economics, when there is a limited supply of really hot single women, as a result the demand sky rockets, which makes "competition over resources" incredibly stiff. Men have always fought and competed for resources, and in my mind beautiful women are quite often a "limited resource."
Obviously location makes a huge difference, I'm in a small town in NorCal, if I were in Bogota, Colombia, or Kiev, Ukraine I may be in a location with a greater abundance of "resources" (vagina), and thus more limited competition.
I think the point has been already touched on in great depth here, but online dating definitely skews things, because now women have an infinite supply of cock at the touch of their finger tips with the countless dating sites and apps on their phones.
We're all aware of the 80/20 principle, and to deny it's existence in my mind is just as great or a greater mistake than game denialism. We all know a tall handsome dude that doesn't have to try and has hot girls throw themselves at him, but for every one guy we know like that, we know 10 other "average nice guys" who aren't getting laid more than a couple times a year, and are perpetually wanking it to pornhub.
Sure we'll say that all those "average nice guys" need to learn game, hit the gym, work on their look, etc. Sure I agree with all of that, but that in turn creates more competition, which perpetuates the cycle. Now I'm not saying that game and going to the gym is going so mainstream that every guy is delving into it, that is certainly not true, most guys aren't willing to put in the work in either realm to really get good at either, plus a lot of guys aren't willing to look into the mirror and identify the issues they need to work on.
Any how back to online dating, since women have such infinite choice, and so many guys are so thirsty, thus it creates an imbalance in the sexual market place where a woman who is a 6 can easily fuck or date up with a guy who'd rank a 7 or 8. Sure an 8 guy may pump and dump a 6 chick, but there's always going to be another 8-guy for her to fuck, and as long as she's riding the carousel she's going to keep grasping for higher caliber guys, which just reinforces the 80/20 principle.
Definitely every so often I see a really hot girl with a guy who is just average or doesn't match up to her in terms of SMV, sure it happens, but it is the exception and not the rule. Quite often they are high school sweethearts, they met through social circle, etc. I personally know guys like this, and sure they may get lucky with a hot young one, but they often get married young, and they haven't had sex with any other women.
Maybe the grass is always greener, what is worse marrying a sweet cute young chick at 22, the one you lost your virginity to, and be relegating to one vagina your whole life. Or be like me a 31 year old single man who's run through a bunch of sluts, got a decent notch count, and a lot of wild sexual experiences, but often feels lonely and like something is missing at the end of the day.